for gunderson, the logical source was vermont yankee. >> i think if you find a fish with radioactiveeaking radioactive strontium, a prety high correlation that the strontium in the fish came from the plant. >> so far testing has suggested otherwise. this is dr. bill irwin, and he is with the vermont department of health. this is where you keep the fish you caught in the connecticut river? >> yes, this is correct. >> a recent study released by dr. irwin showed that fish almost 150 miles away in a lake had strontium in them. he believes caused by fallout from nuclear testing. >> the other place that we found strontium 90 is in the natural environment everywhere, in not only that area of vermont but all areas of vermont and throughout the world, and again it comes from fallout from nuclear weapons testing. >> but more tests need to be conducted to be certain. despite its age and recent problems, last year the nrc granted vermont yankee a 20-year extension, so instead of closing in march 2012, it could now be open until march 2032. >> where i have had problems is that the nrc has in some

the gunderson the weather the above a few meters below the temperature remain stable. and geothermal pumps can harness this free source of potential energy to cover the majority of our needs for the heart of the system is a ground source heat pump that delivers natural cold with the refrigerator which turns it into a vapor that's been pressurized and further heated up in a compressor that in turn is used to power central heating and hot water systems as it loses its latent heat the vapor returns to a liquid form and at this point the process starts all over again all this follows the principles of car no cycle which describes the maximum official seat of a thermodynamics system this principle has been around for more than a century but thanks to modern advances it can be applied to our everyday needs. with this house we are testing the newest technologies to see how they will work in our climate we are especially interested in testing this heat in real world conditions we also want to find out how much electricity the house will consume it will compare the results to t

care problem which is actually very well under way in the private sector already in places like gunderson and kaiser and mayo and intermountain and others which is to quote my ranking member turn our system, our health care system from one that is -- used in a different context. but inefficient and wasteful to something had a is healthy, lean, and productive. and because that's a cultural transformation, because it requires turning a few corners, because it requires an element as one day of experimentation and innovation, it's not something that lends itself to scoring. and scoring is always the coin of the realm in the budget discussions. so what i urged you and our off the record meeting when i urged you again here today is as you're discussing this problem, please don't overlook that element of a potential solution which would not only help with medicare and medicaid costs into the future, but help would health care cost as cross the board which are burdening our famili the entire american economy. that's my worry. because you can't score it, ca a systemic nature, we tend not to talk a

act get implemented as we learn more about this, as success out of kaiser and intermountain and gunderson and lutheran as as they prove with real savings for improved care that you all push to -- i know as i have said, i appreciate you can't calculate a score. you can set a goal. you can set a firmer goal than this bending the cost curve business. could you talk about this. >> please. >> in the 30 seconds i have in my inordinately -- >> we have to live by the compact and voucherizing medicare is not in the program. so the help can house -- republican house bill would shift $6,400 to seniors as an additional expense is completely unacceptable to the president. there are -- having spent time in the private sector, there are inefficiencies. you have places where costs are higher and outcomes are actually lower so you don't have the correlation between cost and outcome. in essence, you know, the productivity gains that have been made across the private sector, outside of healthcare, 1.5% and productivity gains for cost decreases and quality increases happening at the same time. we need to do