i don't think kathleen sebelius is joseph stalin, as newt gingrich does.not seen 30 to 40 million people slaughtered. >> see, i think it's a blunder, too. >> the obama collectivization. >> in terms of the reaction. >> i think dan bought into the whole clint eastwood -- >> half baked in america. >> come on. >> it's a good ad. >> it's a good ad. >> i love america. i just think it's absurd to suggest that the future of america lies in the model of detroit. i'm not as optimistic -- >> that's not what the ad said. >> can you do me a favor. can we not talk about the ad? seriously, it's just an ad. it's just an ad, just stop this, this is stupid television. >> you don't think detroit is a model for america? >> population is less than 750,000. you know, few decades ago it was the fifth largest city in america. everyone in america was going to detroit. it was america's silicon valley. i'm not suggesting there aren't things, things aren't getting slightly better there. but the suggestion is this is our city is set upon a hill? >> dan, you are a cultural it literate.