them so to dig a little deeper into these numbers earlier i spoke to former pentagon official michael maloof he gave me some insight as to why president obama won't own up to these statistics. well it's an open secret it's been an open secret the pakistanis certainly know about it and it's it's much it actually is beyond the to the plot the policy is beyond just afghanistan and pakistan it's also now into yemen they've been using them in yemen a lot of civilians have been killed there as well and it is taking a terrifying toll even on civilians and that's probably one of the major opposition . points from the pakistanis on how many civilians it has been killing. when you're when you're guiding these these drones from a half a world away even though they take off from afghanistan. it's difficult sometimes to identify the target from that distance and yet i mean if you're if you think about some of the people that actually are targeted in pakistan. there doesn't seem to be at least for the missions at hand a lot of other options it's not like you can send in boots on the ground or troops to ge