mr. israchairman. >> thank you. i think i have a graph that will show you the surge in spending and to understand senator sessions' question to you -- >> i eel look to omb to give me that. no disrespect to my friend. >> this comes right out of table s-1 from president obama's budget last year. and then table s-1 from president obama's budget this year. it's called total outlays in ten years. you can see in the '90s, go go '90s we spent $16 trillion and then we spent $28 trillion. last year's budget showed spending of $46 trillion. this year's budget in the tables, in president obama's budget shows $47 trillion. so again, i'm doing you a favor in answering senator sessions' question for you. this budget spends more than last year's budget and spends more on the base line. i actually have a question for you though. you're claiming $4 trillion in deficit reduction. but again going back to your budget, last year in schedule -- in table s-14, it shows total gross federal debt in the year 2021 and it showed a figure estim