mr. lawson, again, i'm here in las vegas. could i watch the three broadcast channels, or what -- you've got all your member companies down here on your display, but what exactly could i see if i were right here? could i watch local tv from washington, d.c.? >> guest: you could watch local tv from las vegas. so this is a local play. we'll have national content, of course. we have the food network here for the booth, but it's the local broadcaster. and what we've found is if people value the local news, weather and sports most highly. >> host: so people who may be interested in watching c-span, would c-span have to sign up for your service for people to get that over their mobile devices? >> guest: it all depends on the deal. we would love to have c-span in. everything we're broadcasting now is free and in the clear. we would lo to have c-span if your pl of stations and channels that we're building. >> host: does it include the broadcast networks, abc, cbs? >> guest: it does. there's a second consortium headed by fox and nbc, a

mr. lawson again i'm here in las vegas. could i watch the three broadcast channels, or you have got all your member companies down here in your display but what exactly could i see if i were right here? could i watch local tv from washington d.c.? >> guest: you could watch local tv from las vegas so this is a local play. we will have national content and of course we have the food network here at the boot but it is a local broadcaster and what we have found his people value the local news and sports most highly. >> host: so people who may be interested in watching c-span, would c-span have to sign up for your service for people to get that over their mobile devices? >> guest: it all depends on our deal with c-span. we would love to have c-span. everything we are broadcasting is free and in the clear. we would love to have c-span in our portfolio and stations and channels we are building. >> host: does it include the broadcast networks? >> guest: it does. there is a consortium headed by nbc and their they're lighting up thei

mr. chairman, if i might, brandi lawson, the ceo of the american boilers' manufacturers association. he said, this holds a strong promise to create additional, high paying skilled and unskilled domestic manufacturing jobs in boiler and associated industries. so, despite the attacks being made, clean air and getting the pollution out of the air will help our economy, it will keep us healthy, it is good for the economy, and it is good for help. i would urge us to remove this provision from the conference. >> thank you, senator. >> thank you, mr. chairman. senator cardin and i both serve on the dpw committee, discussed these issues in the past and we fundamentally disagree. to me, the epa continues to underestimate cost and overestimate benefits. the costs are real, both in dollars and in terms of jobs. listen carefully to what he has said. i want to go back to what he said about this agreement. mact stands for maximum achievable control technology. this really ought to be a part of this. if we are talking about extending unemployment benefits, the number of people that will lose their