mr. monty wilkinson may have informed you of agent terry's murder in a timely fashion, is that true? >> he may have. i know the murder occurred december 14th. i heard about it, i think, probably within 24 hours. i don't know if it came from monty wilkinson or some other member of my staff, but i knew about the murder within 24 hours of its occurrence. >> when you were informed about that within 24 hours, did anyone inform you or allude to the fact that the weapons found at the scene were from fast and furious? >> no. i didn't know about operation fast and furious until the beginning parts of 2011 after i received that letter from senator grassley, i guess, at the end of january and then that was about operation gun runner. of i actually learned about the fast and furious operation in february of that year. >> would you -- >> 2011. >> would you make available to us through whatever records you can find the name of the person who informed you so that we can ascertain why that individual would not or did not tell you what was widely known almost immediately that, in fact, law enforcemen