and she said, well, mr. perry, the problem is this -- you see, i asked the sunday school class who walked on water. and your daughter, mandy answered, robert e. lee. and then, after i corrected your daughter mandy, your other daughter, lindy said, well maybe jesus did it, but robert e. lee did it first. the second reason i wrote the book is that i saw a very strong need for this type of work. i saw the need for a well-documented book that had facts in it. and would let the reader decide for himself or herself the true story of slavery in america. the final reason i accepted the challenge of writing this particular book is i had a lot of questions about this, what some people call the peculiar institution of slavery. i've always -- to be honest with you, been very confused. i've been a student of the war between the states history since i was a small child. and the slavery issue just confused me. i really didn't understand it. and i would imagine if you asked most americans today why we had the civil war, they woul

. >> mr. perry, in your research, did you find any differences of service of the black americans in the union versus confederate army, two parts? also, which army first used them? did you find any evidence of that? >> that's a good question. there was service, obviously on both sides, both the union and the confederate. i think it highly more likely that the initial service was on the confederate side because you had many of the slaves that went off with their slave owner to war. i don't personally think it was too long before they took up arms. that might not have been their original attempt but it wasn't long before they took up arms right alongside their slave owner. i think there's excellent examples of valor on both sides, both the union side and confederate side by black soldiers. >> and the second part, then, were there -- how were the black soldiers treated? were the confederates versus the union blacks able to reach officer status? any differences there? >> yeah, there are a number of diffe

that was rick perry back in september, and then mr. perry went away. after mr. perry, mr.hen herman cain went away. then from mr. gingrich, and he went away and came back and went away. so though it is exciting in the moment, a rival candidate to surge and pose a challenge to mr. romney, it's not the most novel story in the world. if in all the breathless rick santorum coverage today you feel like you have seen this movie before, it is because you have seen this movie before. and it might end up being a big deal, but it might not. if chart really does imitate life, here's what i think is a more important thing to keep an eye on. and it's not getting nearly as much attention. we don't vote nationally. we vote state by state, right? it's too bad, but the presidential preferences of republican voters in a state like utah really don't matter all that much. their primary's at the end of june. it comes pretty much too late in the process to likely have any impact on who the republicans pick for their nominees. but utah republicans' preferences are reflected as much in these nati

then mr. perry went away. after mr. perry, mr.weathered the exact same storm from herman cain, and herman cain went away. then after herman cain, mr. romney weathered the exact same storm from newt gingrich and mr. gingrich went away and mr. gingrich came back and went away again. though it's exciting in the moment, a rival republican candidate coming from no where to surge it's not the most novel story in the world. yes, mr. santorum has come from nowhere to meet or exceed mr. if in all the breathless rick santorum coverage today you feel like you have seen this movie before, it is because you have seen this movie before. and it might end up being a big deal, but it might not. this is what's going on in the republican rate for president. the more happens in the race, the more voting, the more campaigning this year, the more voters have decided nationally that they cannot stand mitt romney. if there's polling in politics that might be worth blanket coverage from the beltway media, i would think that this would be it. chart imitate

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mrs. perryut the campaign trail. >> when the one you love is attacked, it is harder for me when our children were always attacked. we put ourselves out there and expected that. i will tell you it is a little bit of comfort knowing that we are not being attacked right now. as you can see, i'm in a tricky situation here. i'm bidding on a 1979 dukes of hazzard lunchbox. my auction ends in 15 seconds ! even worse, my buddy's bidding on the same lunchbox ! it's airbrushed ! but i've got verizon 4g lte. it's so fast, i can outbid him at the last second. i got it ! yes ! woo hoo ! it's got a thermos ! rely on verizon, america's largest 4g lte network. becausonly the fastest survive. >> shannon: legendary singer whitney houston has died. her body was found in a beverly hills hotel on the eve of the grammies. >> grammy organizers will add a tribute to whitney houston at tonight's award show. jennifer hudson is expected to sing in the tribute. whitney houston was a six time grammy award winner. she was in

perry's "good deeds" opens this friday. and as usual, he wrote, produced, directed and is starring in the movie. please welcome back to the show, one of our favorites, mrpplause ] >> jimmy: we'll sit down together. we'll sit together. >> yes. >> jimmy: good to see ya. tyler perry, thanks for coming back on the show. >> oh, i enjoy being here al-so. >> jimmy: we -- [ laughter ] >> that was pretty funny, man. >> jimmy: that guy -- >> that guy is funny. that's pretty close to the other one. >> jimmy: yeah, we didn't think about that -- >> yeah, al-so. >> jimmy: when we did it in rehearsal. yeah, yeah. >> i'll have to use that. it's great. >> jimmy: you can get away with that, right? >> yeah. >> jimmy: i want to say madea took over -- took over your facebook the other day and your e-mail. >> yeah. >> jimmy: you must be very upset. how did she get -- even -- control -- what did she have to say? >> she's a big broad. she can do whatever she wants to do. [ light laughter ] >> jimmy: i love when -- i love when you do madea. >> she said she was going back out on the road. doing a play -- a new play. madea gets a job traveling the world. everybody's excited abou

mr. friess. >> melissa harris perry, we also want to congratulate you on being named one of the 100 class of 2012hot out shout out to my mother who wanted to name your show. and she said did you see foster friess on andrea's show? and the backlash has been surprising. and patty murray of washington state had this to say. take a look. >> one of the chief financial backers for rick santorum, the republican candidate that's now surging towards the nomination suggested that contraception was once as simple as a woman putting aspirin between her knees. really? shocking. appalling. an insult. >> told you, my mom calls and she says we're not talking about it enough on television. >> it's funny you bring up your mom here, i have been thinking precisely the same thing, there's a generational oddity about this. like i'm surprised. my mother was a young woman very active in the sort of reproductive rights movement in the early 1970s because women didn't have the right to choose, because birth control was not as widely available. and i think she thought she fought that battle that that was over and sort of w

mrs. williams, i told tyler perry when he called us on it that we're coming down there. perry put a spotlight on this because your son represents a lot of people that have been marginalized. people assume nobody cares about. and we can't have a country that people are only matter base on their pedigree or their criminal record or their family lifestyle. human beings matter. >> not in this america. you're right. >> tyler is not going to stand by himself. it's embarrassing. he has to wake the ministers up to do our job. we're coming to naples with tyler perry in march and we're going to try to put a lot of spotlight on this. >> thank you. thank you. >> tyler, marcia, we're going to rally and we're going to keep this out there on the show. thank you for your time tonight to both of you. thank you, tyler. >> god bless. >> thank you. god bless you. >> the collier county sheriff's office fired deputy calkins in october 2004 citing untruthful statements and conduct unbecoming an officer in the terrance williams case. today, we spoke with the detective kevin o'neil who told us c

. >> what's the response from inside of wall street when they hear rick perry, mr.ey, big oil, big business himself, going after vulture capitalism? when they hear newt gingrich, who has built a career out claiming to be the winston churchill of the free marketplace -- trashing mitt romney for doing, oh my god, how dare he do that, taking bad companies, firing people and making them more productive? that had to be -- >> that was one of the most destabilizing things that a lot of these finance executives could hear. they could always rely on republicans to be defenders of capitalism in the free market to hear a sort of progressive far left attack coming from within the republican party. the politics -- >> of rick perry. are getting so scrambled. essentially it's just populism. on the left and the right. they know it's out there. and i think they're trying to triangle late to see if they can find a way through. >> dan, what makes newt gingrich and mitt romney sound like nyu grad students from occupy wall street? >> it's gingrich and perry. >> did i say romney? >> yeah

perry versus hollings worth, perry and city of san francisco versus hollingsworth. good morning, mr. cooper. >> good morning, your honor. the people of california and americans tlouhroughout the couy are engaged in an earnest and profound debate about the definition of marriage. the issue is a momentous one, for it goes to the nature of a ubiquitous institution that is fundamental to the very existence and survival of the human race. so this court is presented with, in our submission, this fundamental question. it is whether the definition of marriage, that momentous issue, is one for the people themselves to resolve through the democratic process as they did in enacting proposition 8, or whether our current institution takes that issue essentially out of their hands and decides it for them as the plaintiffs argue here. >> could the people of california reinstitute school segregation via public vote? >> no, your honor. >> why not? >> well, your honor, that would be inconsistent -- >> with what? >> with the united states constitution. >> as interpreted by the u.s. supreme court. >> y

mr. mckinnon, you were a rick perry supporter. now you say you're cautiously backing newt gingrich.ven some of the statements he makes? >> again, i think ultimately out of the four, he's trying to understand the issue of poverty better than any of them. i'm honestly disappointed with the entire republican slate to tell you the truth. regardless, i think he's at least more open to listening to the issue to try and find some solutions, even if unfortunately, he does say ignorant and silly things from time to time. >> we know that poverty, not race, right, is a common denominator and a lack of education and moving forward in this country. what made the difference for you? if somebody is watching and says be you know what, i want to be like him. >> a lot of it was, was a few relatives that took the time and recognized what my family was going through, what my brother and sister and i was going through, and took the time and tried to help us, whether for an aft afternoon or a day. we can solve it one-on-one. i guarantee most americans have somebody in their own family who is going throug

mr. chairman. thank you all for your service and time. let me start with this, this is a quote from secretary perry and general shalikashvili under president clinton. a dramatic reduction in the threat allowed for a significant reduction in the size of our military force, the most obvious benefit of force structure was a reduction in the defense budget. this peace dividend, i'm quoting, amounted to about $100 billion a year has been a major contributor to the balance budget our country enjoys. did the nation pay too high a price for this benefit, in particular, was the capability of the military forces reduced to the extent they cannot adequately protect american national interests? our answer to that question is an emphatic no. a year and a half later terrorist murdered 3,000 americans and off we went to war and as secretary rumsfeld went we went with the army we had not the one we wished for. how do you differentiate yourself from these two leaders in that time who were presiding over what they would not call but look back and see was a hollowing out of the military? >> well, i differentiate from them because i think we each face our own

perry and gingrich in florida. they will come out with all guns blazing. it's the question whether or not he is big spender. other big area is mrsantorum's labor record. his vote in particular for some union issues coming from a state like pennsylvania. >> paul: how valuable santorum on big spender? >> he is not vulnerable. he would be vulnerable if he was competing for conservative votes against jim demint. i guess mitt romney i think it's clear that santorum is the economic conservative. you might see he is not electable for other reasons but in terms of spending he was more conservative than the average republican in the senate. >> paul: his record was "a" minus? >> you are talking about future liabilities and he led the charge on that on social security. it ended up costing an election in part. to go after him as a big spender is ridiculous. >> paul: i remember writing column bums about he was for private accounts before george bush was when it had been tried as a political issue. dan, what about this union point? >> he represented pennsylvania. i've looked at the record. basically there was a good rick and bad rick. good w

perry's presidential campaign. thanks for joining the program. >> thanks for having me. >> so, you know, mr.ney, when we talk about outsiderdom. when looking at the professional record of the candidates on stage, we have newt gingrich, who, of course, served as speaker of the house, santorum spent 16 years in washington, ron paul, 22 years. mitt romney, obviously, governor of massachusetts, scion of a political dynasty. do you think anyone in the electorate is buying the notion that any of these guys are an outsider? >> i think some of them are. but it's really not their resume that distinguishes an insider from an outsider, in my opinion. it's their passion, it's their rhetoric, it's the tone of their presentation. it's the issues that they choose to talk about. the vote, you know, are you worried about what the lobbyists and the funders and the insiders in washington care about or are you talking about what people on main street are discussing today in the diner, having a hamburger? i mean, it isn't your -- i don't believe it's your resume. i think it is your rhetoric and how you relate to

perry who endorsed me came out of nowhere. we just kept trotting along. we will see in the next few weeks have mr. santorum does.he fact is, i am the only candidate in this race who has stood nose to nose with presidents of both parties and not to flinch. i am the only candidate in this race -- [applause] i was against tax increases when there were democrats doing it and i was against tax increases when the republicans were doing it because i did not flinch. the only candidates race that has put together national elections that actually changed the direction of the country. i am the only candidate in this race who has put together an entitlement reform on the scale of welfare of where two out of three people left welfare to go to work or to school and pass the first tax cut in 16 years and the largest capital gains tax cut in history when unemployment dropped to 4.2% for it without comment on, we got the 1997 balanced budget act and the budget was balanced for four consecutive years for the only time in your lifetime. [applause] with your help if you go back, and put this on facebook and tweet it and send out e-

mr. clinton survived it. and behind the scenes of the british drama, fountain abbey that has taken america by storm and tyler perrys also here with us in studio 57. and so we will see you at 7:00. >> couldn't get the day off, huh, charley? >> i'm trying. >> i know. we kid you much. happy monday. >> how about you? you've been longer than i've been here. >> well, that's touche. >> tv is never pretty. all good. thank you very much. >> see ya. >> cbs 24 this morning starts at -- cbs this morning starts at 7:00. >>> another guy who doesn't have the day off, comedian stephen colbert is back in his chair and the network halted production suddenly of the colbert report on wednesday and it didn't comment about caring for his 91-year-old mother but he tweeted everyone saying thanks for thoughts and prayers. >>> lindsey lohan is about to make a comeback. and hosting saturday night live. nbc says her guest host appearance will be march 3. and her career has been sidelined recently because of legal and personal problems that she has had, but this is going to be her fourth turn as the host of the late night comedy show. and in

mr. speaker, i've been listening the place you are going to keep your eyes on, pick up the surge was in the state of texas that governor perry had endorsed and wind behind your back. it's now been announced there have been problems with the the day of the primary, it's not going to be early april but it looks like late may, perhaps the 29 of may. does that change your strategy, sir? >> no, it means we're going to have to pick up the delegates just before the california primary. we'll have to pick up more delegates out here. assuming on super tuesday, georgia, tennessee, oklahoma, looking at ohio, week after super tuesday looking at alabama and mississippi. now we have hopes we're going to keep picking up delegates and race is going on for a long time. with texas moving back means combined with california being in early june, two biggest states in the country aren't going to be deciding. they may well be the two states that decides who the nominee is. >> greta: if you could pick up texas early on, it would be a good for donors, it would be a good incentives to pay in the campaign if you picked up 155 delegates? >> it's always

perry" saturday and sunday morning at 10:00 a.m. eastern on msnbc. >>> ahead -- rick santorum's latest conspiracy theory. the president wants kids to go to college so they can be indoctrinated. mrsantorum, educating you makes my head hurt. but first, our ongoing series, "here are the jobs." we'll talk to a businessman looking to hire thousands this year. everywhere you go, america, i see your cup of joe goes with you. how nice of joe to, how you say, have your back. try something different. a delicious gevalia kaffe, or as i like to say, a cup of johan. will johan power walk the mall with you? i don't think so. but he will spend time rubbing your feet, discussing your feelings. ♪ joe may have your back, but johan has your feet. gevalia. meet me in the coffee aisle. your finances can't manage themselves. but that doesn't mean they won't try. bring all your finances together with the help of the one person who can. a certified financial planner professional. cfp. let's make a plan. hey, mom? what? pay you? for what? for unloading the dishwasher?! kid, you need to pay me for making this delicious -- whoa. hold on there, mom. kitchen counselor. um, mom, i think what she means is "g

perry came out of nowhere. we just kept trotting along. we will see in the next few weeks how mr. rick santorum does.he fact is, i am the

perry came out of nowhere. we just kept trotting along. we will see in the next few weeks how mr. rick santorum does. the fact is, i am the only candidate in this race who has stood nose-to-nose with presidents of both parties and not flinched. i am the only candidate in this race -- [cheers and applause] -- i was against tax increases when democrats were doing it, and i was against it when republicans were doing it. i did not flinch. i was the only one that put together large national elections that changed the country. past the first tax cut in 16 years, and the largest capital gains tax cut in history when unemployment rate dropped to 4.2%. with that we got the 1997 balanced budget act and it was balanced for four consecutive years for the only time in your lifetime. [cheers and applause] with your help, if you will go back home and put this on facebook and tweet it and send out e-mails and call your friends. maybe in an old fashioned way actually see people, make sure they vote. with your help we will win the primary. that is a big piece of winning super tuesday. if we win super tuesday, we are b

mr. speaker, the fence has been a point of contention in the race. one of your high-profile supporters, a gentleman who's been up here during this campaign, governor rick perryhe said this. if you build a 30-foot wall from el paso to brownsville, the 35-foot ladder business gets really good. you signed a pledge to construct the double fence. why is governor perry wrong? >> he's not wrong. you need two 35-foot ladders because it's a 35-foot fence. the fact is i helped duncan hunter pass the first fence bill in san diego when i was speaker of the house. san diego and tijuana are the most densely populated border. it turned out it worked. it worked dramatically. however, it stopped. it stopped in part because there was a wetlands. it turned out none of the illegal immigrants cared about wetlands policy. then you had to build around the wetlands, which we did. the further we have gone with the fence, the fewer people have broken into california. now, the thing that's fascinating, john, is you quoted a government study of how much it would cost. that's my earlier point. if you modernize the federal government so it's competent, you could probably do it for 10% of

mr. chairman, i join you in welcoming secretary clinton to the foreign relations committee once again and really for to discussing the message is foreign policy perris, but requests for fiscal year 20 yes, 13 -- 2013. i sent to us is your visit last year the american economy remains under great threat with the unemployment rate well above historical standards at over 8 percent nationally and 9 percent in my home state of indiana. at the close of 2011 nearly 40 million americans are still looking to work, and millions more were underemployed. the national debt has risen above 15 trillion composting extreme economic risks for our country. american families continue to bear the brunt of these economic uncertainties. within this context the administration's request for resources must be prioritized to meet the requirements of budget austerity. while addressing the vital national security objectives that the chairman has so airlines. the staff has also brought further uncertainty overseas -- this last year has brought further instability. people are marking the anniversary of their protests for democracy and accountability . for some these anniversaries

perry came out of nowhere. we just kept trotting along. we will see in the next few weeks how mr. rick santorum does. only candidate in this race who has stood nose-to-nose with presidents of both parties and not flinched. i am the only candidate in this race -- [applause] -- i was against tax increases when democrats were doing it and i was against it when republicans were doing it. i did not flinch. i was the only one that put together large national elections that changed the country. past the first tax cut in 16 years, and the largest capital gains tax cut in history when unemployment rate dropped to 4.2%. with that we got the 1997 balanced budget act and it was balanced for four consecutive years for the only time in your lifetime. [applause] with your help, if you will go back home and put this on facebook and tweet it and send out e-mails and call your friends. maybe in an old fashioned way actually see people, make sure they vote. with your help we will win the primary. that is a big piece of winning super tuesday. if we win super tuesday, we are back in the game. for the third time, we'll be

mr. chairman. thank you all for your service and time. let me start with this, this is a quote from secretary perry and general shalikashvili under presidentnton. a dramatic reduction in the threat allowed for a significant reduction in the size of our military force the most obvious benefit of rce structure was a reduction in the defense budget. this peace dividend, i'm quoting, amounted to about $100 billion a year has been a major contributor to the balance budget our country enjoys. did the nation pay too high a price for this benefit in particular, was the capability of the military forces reduced to the extent they cannot adequately protect american national interests? our answer to that question is emphatic no. a year and a half later terrorist murdered 3,000 americans and off we went to war and as secretary rumsfeld went we went with the army we had not the one we wished for. how do you differentiate yourself from these two leaders in that time who were presiding over what they would not call but look back and see was a hollowing out of the military? >> well, i differentiate from them because i think we each face our own different

perry strongly. we have said that. need to keep in mind the principle for why we are here. so, let me turn to senator carver. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i agree with senator baucus of's initial comments. -- senator baucus's initial comments. let me talk about this for a moment. mac is the maximum allowable concentration. it seems any time there is a regulation proposed to deal with cleaning up the air from our polluters, there are those who say they cannot afford it and it will result in job loss. i think that is a big question. you can have clean air, and you can have job growth. the results of clean-air are well-known. is a requirement of the regulatory structure. there is a peer review that gives us an overview of the cost and the benefit to society. last year, it was credited with preventing 86,00086,000 hospitae aborted because of the clean air regulations. 13 million days lost by employment was avoided because of the clean air act. the cost-benefit analysis we required to be done showed a 40-one cost benefit analysis. that is, 40 times more savings to society, than the cost of reducing the pollution. so let me dispel