just recently, mrs. goel from turkey was here. she was one of the spouses of a leader. president goel was meeting with the president and she was here with me and i had -- it was really fun to be able to tell her that this rug is a turkish rug and all the turkish members of the party, mrs. goel and the others said, well, this doesn't look like one, but i could get out my trusty guide book that the curators have put together and tell her that this was a harriki made in harriki for the french market, which is why it looks like a european rug rather than a turkish rug. >> can you remember the most interesting time you ever spent in this room itself? >> i can remember a lot of very interesting people i had the opportunity to meet here, like the dalai lama, that president bush and i have met with in here. i remember fun times of parties here, that were just fun personal parties and a baby shower for our niece that was so cute and fun party in here, where we had the chef had made up really cute things like good night moon pies for dessert and things that had to do with really