phil kerpen this sounds like democracy denied.y don't want to have a we don'tçóçó require too muchcÑ enators. =do. one of them isÑi toÑiñr pass anl budget. they won't even propose a budget and it's a deliberate political strategy. chuck schumer thinks if we don't put anything on the table we can sit back and attack the paul ryan budget and attack what the white house is doing. they won't defend the budget which went down 97-0 and how can we take anything they're proposing and any of the legislation they're putting forward seriously if they're not even giving us a budget and showing us how it all fits together. >> your former boss, bill clinton would never have gone down this road. he worked with congress to pass budgets and ultimately to balance budgets. how can you stand for this kind of attitude coming out of the senate from harry reid and also we just heard it from the white house and jay carney affirmed it. they don't care about a budget. it's interesting that you mentioned bill clinton, my former boss because one thing that w

. >> phil kerpen, we don't want continuous welfare, we want people to have work fare, do we not?l give you the last word. >> 99 weeks too much. if you want to say we were in the recession, more than 26 weeks made sense for a short period of time. there is no president for this level. >> thank you very much, appreciate the debate. that is it for this evening. thanks for watching, i say benefits are fine, but work for it. i'd race down that hill without a helmet. i took some steep risks in my teens. i'd never ride without one now. and since my doctor prescribed lipitor, i won't go without it for my high cholesterol. why kid myself? diet and exercise weren't lowering my cholesterol enough. now i'm eating healthier, exercising more, taking lipitor. numbers don't lie. my cholesterol has stayed down. and here's another number you might be interested in. lipitor may be available for as little as $4 a month with the lipitor co-pay card. terms and conditions apply. visit lipitor.com for details. [ female announcer ] lipitor is not for everyone, including people with liver problems and wom