so if there's a theme that's redistricting, i think it's the morric rise in the latino population and you see it obviously in the controversies in texas and elsewhere. also people tend to think about it in classic areas like texas and california and maybe florida, it's throughout maybe just not the south but in northern cities as well, where i live in harlem, which is historically seen as a majority black area is now plurality latino so the harlem district is plurality latino so there's a similar theme there which is that the african-american population has not been keeping up with the pace, and so that it becomes a little more challenging to draw some of the districts as we talked about before but also not as necessary because of success of certain african-american incumbents and others in getting cross-over voters. the relevance of the obama election i think is in the background of a lot of discussion of these issues, even though it doesn't really come up in court. i'll be interested to see if it does lead the supreme court to think about section 5 in one way or another, but even th

, and it is worth saying, you know, the 1990 census came out, north carolina began its redistricting, the case went to the supreme court once early on, on partisan redistricting in a case called pope bleagainst blue where the supreme court summarily affirmed the dismissal of the complaint and we'll talk more in a moment about partisan gerrymandering, and it went up to the supreme court shaw against reno and went back to the supreme court again, went back to the supreme court a third time and finally in april of 2001, just as the census numbers from the 2011 census were being handed to the states, the supreme court finally signed off on the 1990 round of redistricting. but the result of that is that most of the legislative districts that are being drawn for african-american communities today are districts that were there already, and they're simply being preserved and therefore you can always explain those districts as simply preservation of existing districts or protection of incumbents, and so shaw claims i think there are going to be very shaw claims involving majority black distric

they've done redistricting in arizona. and so the district that will be in place for the general is a much better democratic district than the current district that will be in place for the special. and i talked to congresswoman giffords and i talked to mark kelly, i've talked to the folks in arizona. they're looking at a variety of candidates, we're confident that the right candidate will emerge for the special. >> are you expecting her to endorse? >> that's going to be her decision. right now we want to make sure that the candidate that emerges reflects the kind of work ethic and the kind of priorities and values that she represented that district with. and we hope that there will be a decision imminently. >> is she helping you recruit? >> yeah. congressman giffords and mark and the people around her who are so experienced in that district have been talking to a variety of folks. >> can you talk about who some of those folks are and who it is that they'd like to see run for that seat? >> no. not yet. i'm going to leave t

done your way in redistricting. with the present at the top of the ballot that may not be helpful in some of these swing districts. >> the generic is one of the most certain indicators guest: in 2010 when we were in the majority, republicans were up 5 per se 6 in the generic. and they won. right now we are up and every single generic ballot. but we are not there yet. optimism has never won an election. we're not going to win this on optimism. i have of respectful disagreement with your analysis. whether you are right or wrong it is almost irrelevant. where will we be in october and november? we 25 seats to take the house back. i guarantee that this is going to be a close election. it will be razor sharp. it will be based upon the quality of our recruits and we have high-quality recruits. our resources has out raise republicans by $7 million, off of the first time in history. and by the messaging. we are in a comfortable place. guest: the you have any concerns about president obama being a top the ballot? can you win

a nonpartisan redistricting council. nonpartisan redistricting council in iowa.reasing efforts to redistrict to get more nonpartisan redistricting in florida, for instance. what can we do collectively to confront the obvious corruption of our democracy. >> we do still live in a democracy where we have actually seen some demonstrations over the past couple weeks where the peoples' voice has really mattered. the redistricting piece is so important. ari, a brilliant job presenting this. but it's part of a broader war for the gop in particular to hold on to their power base. what we have seen kbr wr they have taken over is not only the gerrymandering, it's also harsh antiillegal immigration techniques. we have also seen the restrictive voter i.d. laws to further narrow the pool of voters. and then we have seen on the same track this focus on women's rights and social issues to try to distract from the real problems and keep their working class base that's voting against their own interests in line. >> the nice thing with that, ari, and i'm sure you appreciate what sh

this time around, two-thirds were going through their first redistricting cycle. it was important to explain firsthand what the process was and i think we'll have a very, very useful discourse during my visit there. and this was the first redistricting in louisiana ever where all of the litigation has been cleared. i mentioned contested litigation involving the texas plans, that trial in the section 5 matter ended last week, closing arguments are tomorrow. there was litigation in the section 2 proceeding that went up to the supreme court. we participated as an amicus in that particular case. we continue to be involved in both the section 5 and section 2 matters. we also have other judicial preclearance cases in matters and we have lodged a number of objections in a number of counties. we're obviously involved in a number of section 5 matters arising out of recently enacted state laws relating to voter identification requirements, voter registration requirements, and changes to early vote prog se procedures. last month we interjected -- last week texas filed a judi

now, if you think about what you have to do to redistrict, some of you obviously have done redistricting yourselves. you know it is a time consuming process. you can't just sort of slap it all together. it's not all done by computer. you have to look at all the things you have to put together whether it's public testimony, census data, demographic data, all of those things come into play, and, of course, it is an inherently political process. okay. a commission is an attempt to try to remove as much as possible legislative interests, direct legislative interest, but it is impossible to remove politics from the process. individuals, groups, and organizations, and the public have interests. they want to see certain districts and alignments, and if you think about the power structure within the legislature who have power and who does not have power, who would like to get more power, you know that people will try to change anything, obviously. if you look at the structure of the commission, divided five democrat, five republican, and four other, nonpartisan or minor party afghanistans, -- af

what we have with redistricting is helping. republicans have picked up house seats in ohio and chicago -- wisconsin. redistricting should give us a republican and conservative majority in the house for the next decade. [applause] we're only a third of the way there. the senate, 47 republican senators, not quite that many conservative senators, but we're getting there. we need to pick up 60 serious senators in the u.s. senate. the next two election cycles make this very possible. in 2012, there are 23 democratic seats. this is a target rich environment. these are people who survived the pro democrats' anti a bush landslide of 2006 and two years later, 13 republicans. in the next two election cycles, there are 43 democratic senators ought. -- up. 43 seats, more than 23 targets. their reason why we have this target rich environment and all of our incumbents are very secure and strong is back in 2006 and 2008, we did so poorly. some of you may have wondered what bush was thinking when they gave away all those senate seats. we could

they redistricted all of texas. >> jon: i know. they redistricted all of it and said four of them are cheating. just four. it's just four. that's like saying i don't mind capitalism but i don't like the idea that you get to take carried interest at capital gains rates instead of 35%. but most of the rules of capitalism is fair. yeah, but that one is not. ( cheers and applause ) >> i have a question. jon, forgive me for not being clear. >> jon: this is not fair. >> no, it is not fair. >> jon: a judge should step in. >> that's right. let me be the referee. >> jon: here's the thing. don't we have fun together? >> we do absolutely. >> jon: can i tell you what would be a hilarious movie. >> i'm ready. >> jon: you and me road trip to mexico. >> you're on. ( cheers and applause ) >> jon: lou dobbs, fox business week. lou dobbs. >> jon: boom. ( cheers and applause ) that's our show, everybody. join us tomorrow night at 11:00. here it is your moment of zen. >> jon stewart, you hold it right there. ( cheers and applause ) >> stephen! stephen

there are federal statutory constraints on how redistricting can be done.here's state law constraints. i'll list them briefly for you, and then we're going to talk about them during this panel to give you a sense of where the line is now and where we think some of the major questions are going to be the next -- this coming time around. several constitutional constraints begin with one vote. they involve the question under the equal protection clause of no acceptance gerrymandering, and in a goldilocks way, no redistricting goals to racial considerations. you can't take race into account too much in either of two directions. the seminal statutory constraints are one that very seldom is talked about, but the requirement initiated first in 1842 that federal congressional elections be conducted from single member districts. section two of the voting rights act, in addition to forbidding for use of plans that results in minority voters not given the equal opportunity to participate in elect candidates of their choice, and section five of the votes act which, in

>> well, it is more turbulent redistricting cycle than we have seen in ten years ago. it is more like 1992 in terms of the turnover. we currently have 13 member versus races, and we have 36 members who are heading for the exits overall. there are so far 20 newly created seats, so altogether, the number of districts with no incumbent is somewhere between 55 and 60, which is a pretty high number for this point in the election cycle and should only go higher. so, that's by any count, a pretty high turnover level in the hour, but it does not necessarily mean that it is going to lead to a large partisan wave that allows the democrats to take the house back. >> h you are looking at store fris the california pres and the l.a. times and david dreier's retirement, and he is the sixth california member to announce stepping down at the end of the term. its impact on california politics and the clout it currently has and david dreier was first elected in 1980 when ronald reagan, the former california governor was going to the white house. >> that is right. california has twice the

it seemed that redistricting the important effort we're going through my result in -- might result in members are candidates running for seats that get reconfigured. they might either not be in the district at pearl -- after april 15 or the district contours' may be different. they may choose not to run or others may choose to run. it may change to some extent the landscape and it seems to me that delaying certification until after our work is completed was a common-sense approach to this sort of thing. i would urge you to support and enact this ordinance. i would also note in the future when there is legislation like this that has to go to the ethics commission, there was an item in the legislative digest that indicated the ethics commission had adopted or approved or recommended the proposed a legislation. it would be good to have a separate letter in the file from the ethics commission stating that so it is not coming from the city attorney but the ethics commission staff reflecting the work of the ethics commission. thank you. until next time. supervisor kim:. -- supervisor kim: t

this presents an enormous challenge to the texas redistrict errors -- redistricters. here is the seventh district, the one of the proposed, which runs from san antonio to southeast docks and. they incorporated a version of it in what the state passed. this was vigorously opposed by the democratic leadership. it comes out of the district of a current anglo congressional incumbent. alex, where did you go? what is his name? how did it last? >> the new district is 36. >> he was not included, but was planning to move in and run, and did not want to because he was in -- he was facing a strong climb lh -- primary challenge from the latino community. dallas-fort worth is where they have grown quite a bit. the anglo population dropped from -- dropped by 200,000 in the decade. here you have a latino population that runs from east to west, which is why you see the state's inactive plan carving districts north and south. districts coming from the south the district's coming from the north. the one that i want to point your attention to his district 26 which comes out of a heavily

redistrict, three remaining thing we don't know about redistricting and advantage parties might haveer, texas, florida and new york what do we know? >> impacts the margins right now. the vast majority of the states already done redrawing their lines, a couple of huge court cases left in florida, texas, perhaps new york, we will see what the legislature does there basically a wash in terms of the seats that have been gained or loss by the parties. the advantage for republicans able to quarantine so many strong democratic voters in the very lop side urban district, many states, you have just one or two very heavily democratic districts and the rest of the district is leaning republican. you repeat that pattern across the country, you get a scenario where democrats could win the majority of votes for congress and lose the house by a dozen. >> that is amazing, saying that. the national house vote at this point. this so packed now, depends, texas and florida could get undone a little bit in giving the democrats more competitive seats to go after that is the case, a 51-49 national majority

that includes an opportunity to deal with redistricting. have introduced legislation that would create a national independent redistricting commission to try and reign in this practice, i would say scandal, where politicians have more influence picking their voters than voters have picking the politicians. >> and no one questions that. the problem is when you have that problem, and you can't fire a politician even if they have a 20% approval rating because it's a gerrymandered district and nobody runs against them, whatever it might be, it allows these people to continue to keep their jobs because they are disconnected with the electorate. how would your plan help to reconnect the voters to those they elect such they don't continue to be so horribly abused? >> there are some states that have independent commissions, california, iowa, and that provides a system where you can actually get some competitive districts and you avoid the notion of these heavily-engineered jergerrymandd districts. i think this is the approach that has taken hold on

. >>> governor o'malley's redistricting map will become law at the end of the day. the plan automatically goes into place if the general assembly does not take action by the 45th day of theception and today is the 45th day. michael bush explained by saying there were no competing redistricting plans in the senate. >>> the heavy machinery took aim at an eyesore in east baltimore. the hold paint factory came crashing down as demolition begafnlt city officials were on hand to bid farewell. toxic chemicals also raised questions, but the neighborhoods said the city's actions have been top notch. >> we've gotten all the questions answered and everything has moved quite smoothly. >> the city acquired the property in 2010. >>> two affordable housing groups got help from the federal government today. cloning man elijah cummings presented a check >> i realize there are a lot of people there hop want to stay and repair their houses but don't have the money to do it. >> it comes from neighbor works of america. >>> rumors abound as retail giant sears is headed for bankruptcy. th

his candidacy is fuelled by redistricting. he is off to a brisk fundraising day, calling in $349,000. that is three times higher than the $104,000 bartlett raised in the same time, though bartlett does have a slight edge in the amount of money has in the bank. maryland's second congressional district may also be a race to watch with nancy jacobs challenging incumbent robert berger -- carper serveruppersbe. >> back to that roscoe bartlett race, a prime opportunities to pick up the seat in the house of representatives. he has been put on a short list and net protecting incumbents. -- aimed at protecting the incumbent. >> city taxpayers foot the bill for the mayor's police security detail to travel with her on out-of-town trips. according to estimates, almost $4,000 was spent on officers accompanying the mayor on recent trips. >> jury deliberation will continue tomorrow in the trial of an inmate accused of killing a corrections officer at the state prison in jessup. they are seeking the death penalty for early stevens. kim dacey

redistricting is a battle all the time. and it's going on and on and on. do it with more precision and it looks nastier, but it's the same game over and over again. >> what i do not understand, because it switches depending on who is in and out of power, you would think that there was a process where it says this does not work. >> you said before that this is a bipartisan phenomon, it has gone on for hundreds of years. they do the same thing that arie is talking about. they are trying to build reliable republican districts and democrat districts and in the south it looks worse because of the racial element to it. but the idea of both parties dividing up districts to hold seats is a long-term ideal and it's horrible for the country and congress, it has created to a large extent the most polarized congress in history. it's a hundred years of redistributing. this is where we are. we have no overlap between the parties. >> and the worst part, if you are an incumbent, you are not worried about the other party beating you of course you are worried about somebody

oral arguments about the litigation they have over the redistricting. one of the issues that was discussed there was the long lead time now needed to get ballots set and get them out, at least 45 days before. that's why, for example, that particular case -- you know, right now texas' primary is set for april 6th, but they're still in court trying to get their redistricting plans done. so it's highly doubtful that they're going to have a primary on the 6th because they'll never be able to meet that deadline. >> well, i'm getting the cane on my neck now, susan. i'm going to make an observation before we close. there are maybe some methodology problems here or disagreements. there are some things we need to do to get better. can you imagine having this conversation as constructed four years ago? to where we are now today. so i think it's incumbent upon all these people, really, really smart people and involved people. we can make this better. we are making it better. i think that's what we really need to focus on in the 2012 time frame, is making our milit

and while you don't redistrict states the nice people who drew the map of the united states redistricted it in such way that we have the lovely square states out in the west that three people live in. and if we carried the senate seats that we carry at the presidential level, even at a -- in a weak year we should have 60-plus republican senators on a regular basis. now step three. again, the one i do worry about is our friend in massachusetts, scott brown. he's been a hero in fighting the government-run healthcare. he should win re-election. i just warn you before i am a -- i used to live in massachusetts. and it's just a tough state. so focus on that, he should win. he's great guy and he helped poke the first hole in obamacare and hopefully will be there to see us get rid of obamacare completely. now, on the white house, all we have to do is replace obama. here's the challenge. he was a very, very good candidate in 2008. he's not a very good president. so a year ago, he decided since he wasn't a good president, but he was a good candidate, he'd go back to being a candidate. so for the l

>> in alaska we will have to send out a voter card to every voter in the state with the redistricting that is happening. so, we are in the process of redesigning the voter card and i would be interested in suggestions from other secretaries on how that works in your state, we are going to try to tie it to a mobile app so it can show you where your precinct is and bring you to an updated ballot and i hope i can find room for the alaska flag song on the back. we will see. i would be interested in what other folks have done, and if there's software premade on that, we are interested in that, too. >> i think that all of on you us are just now sort of getting to that point and if this is something that we can put out and get more feedback, we have an idea? >> yes, louisiana started prior to the october primary, we have on a smartphone on, where you can now pull up your individual information, how you are registered and brings you to your precinct by a gps map and that is important, and pulls up to review from the comfort of your home, so you can get familiar with it. we are not certain we

this time around 2/3 were going through their first redistricting cycle. so it was important to explain first-hand what the process was and we were able to have a, i think a very, very useful discourse during my visit there. and this was the first redistricting cycle ever in louisiana where all of their statewide submissions were precleared the first time they were submitted. every prior cycle there is litigation as to at least one of the statewide plans. now i mentioned the contested litigation involving the texas plans. that trial in section five matter ended last week. closing arguments are tomorrow. there was litigation in the section two proceeding went up to the supreme court. we participated as amicus in that particular case. we continue to be involved in both section 5 and section 2 matters. we have additional preclearance cases pending from florida, texas and various local jurisdictions and we lodged a number of objections in a number of counties. we're obviously involved as you know, a number of section 5 matters arising recently enacted state la

the big things this year that you're facing that no one ever has, and that is the whole issue of redistricting as well as the pop two voter system we're doing. how are you preparing for that or is that part of the agenda for the weekend? >> well, we as a party will do, quite like the democrats did -- recently did, we will be endorsing people. we're also moving ahead on this issue. we're developing new technologies to interact with more californians in the elections ahead. the most important thing we can do in this regard is interact with voters. i've tried to take the party out of sacramento and bring them to places like los angeles and riverside, places where republicans don't ordinarily need -- don't ordinarily go. this is just one more example of it, with this town hall that we're having with the asian community and the latino community. we've got to have these discussions, not only for the sake of our party but for the sake of california. >> belva: well, some of the issues that some of the presidential candidates stand for are different from those positions of californians. so how are you

. >> in alaska we will have to t send out a voter card to every voter in the state with the redistricting that's happening. so we're in the process of redesigning the voter card, and i'd be interested in suggestions from other secretaries on how that works in cure state. we're going to try to tie it to a mobile app so it can show you where your precinct is, bring you to the updated ballot for your precinct, and i hope i can find room for the alaska flag on the back. we'll see. at any rate, i'd be interested in what other folks have done and if there's already some software premade on that. we're interested in that, too. >> i think all of us are just now sort of getting to that point. it seems like this is something we could put out through our network, and for even the secretaries that aren't here, to be able to get more feedback. we have one particular idea. >> yes. louisiana started prior to our october primary, we have on a smartphone where you can now pull up your individual information, how you're registered. it brings you to your precinct by gps map, and that was very important beca

remember, this is the first redistricting that the democrats have ever controlled. since the passage of the voting rights act in the 1960s, the republicans have controlled the department of justice for every census redistricting. this is the first time the democrats have ever done it since the voting rights act was passed. so, they've tried to pull back possible republican gains in the legislative races. they have tried to put republicans in tighter districts. we've got to have a good turnout in november to get these people elected. >> is it possible -- this is for either, ralph. is it possible for the republican presidential nominee to not be the leader of the conservative movement in the country. yeah, of course. >> yes. >> what happens if that happens? what does that look like? >> nobody knows the future, but i will tell you what i've observed as long as i've been on this planet, it means suicide for the republican party. >> ralph, you agree on this one? >> well, i would certainly agree it's not the best scenario. but i guess what i would say is speaking as someb

bream, fox news. >> bret: a federal judge in texas ordering all sides to keep talking for the redistricting. there had been an agreement among several minority groups to a plan that would put two new seats, and the court has said the deal is not done today. the state's april he 3rd primary will be delayed. a federal judge says a man charged with shooting congresswoman gabrielle giffords and others, must remain in prison more months and forcibly medicated. lawmakers says he's not competent to stand trial, but making progress. he's suffering from schizophrenia. we're discussing [ male announcer ] let's level the playing field. take the privileged investing tools of wall street and make them simple, intuitive, and available to all. distill all that data. make information instinctual, visual. introducing trade architect, td ameritrade's empowering web-based trading platform. take control of your portfolio today. trade commission-free for 60 days, and we'll throw in up $600 when you open an account. >> you'll see more and more people recognizing that they need to turn a chapter and the regime is

some redistricting plans have landed in court.conference in late january looking at changing demographics and what is ahead for redistricting in the coming decade. this is about an hour and 33 minutes. >> we are going to get started. thank you all for coming back again and thank you for being here. one of my favorite philosophers is satchel paige. he was famous for many things, including telling you to avoid eating fried food. thank you so much for helping with the lunch along those lines. one of the other things that satchel paige says is, let whosoever sit around recollecting, i am looking up the line. that is a perfect thing for this panel, which is going to consider redistricting partisanship and the future of the voting rights act. i want to start with the past of the voting rights act because it situates many of the debates today. the year that the voting rights act was passed, langston hughes published a poll aim -- published a poem. cited for the telescope of dreams, a man's vision looms very large. turn the telescope arou

the second thing is redistricting. i know it is not our jurisdiction, but it would be interesting to have someone talks about the process. i recognize in a lot of ways from our standpoint it does not matter in the same sort of way, but it is a big issue that will affect land use and decisions in other ways. maybe someone from the task force were chair could come talk about the process and how things can be engaged in can ponder what, if any, implications it has for us. >> i have been meeting with people regarding the project that will probably come to us and a few months and have had the pleasure of attending a forum on sales force at mission bay. standing-room-only into the hall. obviously very interesting questions came up. very interesting presentation, and we will see it here shortly. >> thank you, commissioners. if there are no other matters, we can move on to directors report, which involves announcements and review of the past events. >> thank you. good afternoon, commissioners. a couple of things i want to tell

this is the first redistricting that they have ever controlled. the republicans have controlled the department of justice for every sentence redistricting. it is the first time the democrats have ever done it. they tried to pull back possible republican gains in the legislative races. they tried to put republicans in tighter districts. >> is a possible for the republican presidential nominee to not be the leader of the conservative movement? >> of course. >> what happens if that happens? >> nobody knows the future. it means suicide for the republican president as long as i have been on the planet. >> it is not the best scenario. i guess what i would say is, speaking as someone who has been involved in the conservative movement, we have spent most of the time on this panel doing what a lot of this did during breaks. the sort of sit around and saying john boehner ought to do this. i also want to put the monkey on our back. [applause] i like what newt says when he says i'm not asking you to be for me, i am asking you to be with me. when you look at w

in addition, there are four races where incumbents will face each other because of redistricting.ut the fresh blood, all these things in there, and this could be a very different state. but here's the deal, raj. once you talk about these leaders with great seniority leaving, such as jerry lewis, chair of the powerful appropriations committee, that hurts the state. california's representatives have twice as much seniority as the nation as a whole. that's how congress works. and so once that seniority goes, so will much of the state's clout. it is a two-way street. >> okay. great insight, thank you, larry. also a lot of clout and money for the republican candidates coming here in the weeks and months to come. thank you, larry. >>> still ahead here at 6:00, a change and plan for whitney houston's funeral. what her family has decided to do. >>> i'm chris sanchez in santa clara county where more people died because of domestic violence than they have since 2003. that story and what the plea is for a mother who lost her own son, coming up. >>> and i'm janelle wang. she's a free woman, b

the courts threw out their first attempt at redistricting. many states hold closed primaries, which means only party members can vote. texas holds open primaries on april 3rd, but florida with the first big chunk of delegates, held closed primaries last week. have you ever seen an against line on the ballot? to reject the candidates you don't like? i didn't think so. we're left all too often to vote for the lesser of two evils and then comes washington's revolving door. it gives special interests the power to influence what laws are written. it chokes off debate on the issues that are not bought and paid for. election cycles are media gold. millions already spent on ads so far in the republican primaries and $7 billion expected before voters head e to the polls november 6th. and this money to the politicians comes from all those private interests that we hear about. for that one, there's one way to fix it. to get money out with the 28th constitutional amendment. but beyond that, we must begin to reform our electoral system immediately so it's

bream, fox news. >> bret: a federal judge in texas ordering all sides to keep talking for the redistrictingit. there had been an agreement among several minority groups to a plan that would put two new seats, and the court has said the deal is not done today. the state's april he 3rd primary will be delayed. a federal judge says a man charged with shooting congresswoman gabrielle giffords and others, must remain in prison more months and forcibly medicated. lawmakers says he's not competent to stand trial, but making progress. he's suffering from schizophrenia. we're discussing around syria. join us after the break. and i took nyquil, but i'm still stubbed up. [ male announcer ] sorry buddy. truth is, nyquil doesn't un-stuff your nose. what? it doesn't have a decongestant. really? [ male announcer ] you need a more complete cold and flu formula, like alka-seltzer plus liquid gels. it's specially formulated to fight your worst cold and flu symptoms, plus relieve your stuffy nose. [ deep breath ] thank you! [ male announcer ] you're welcome. that's the cold truth! [ male announcer ] and to fi

i suppose it depends in part on when that redistricting task force gets their work done, but, anyway. thanks. commissioner hur: the next item on the agenda is items for future meetings. commissioners? public comment? public comment on matters appearing or not appearing on the agenda which are within the jurisdiction of the ethics commission. is there a motion to adjourn the meeting? commissioner studley: so moved. commissioner hur: commissioner -- seconded. opposed? meeting is adjourned. [gavel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org--