similar activities, face similar threats and need to share information with each other to protect thechlz themgsz as an industry. i think that's important. for me, the big -- the really big fish in this is when you look at the companies and entities that are involved in running the networks, running the internet, you know, the top five or six telcos in the united states see the network traffic in the world pass through their pipes. if you add that to what the nsa sees and develop that common operating picture, that's a game changer in terms of the threats that you're able to see all across the world and the way that you're able it to collaborate and share information on how to stop the threats. so, you know, i think the answer on information sharing is that, you know, the dod, dhs, mou that allows for the of two them to collaborate is important. models like the dib pilot are really important. potentially an organization like a national information sharing organization could be important. all of them, you know, to harken back to what admiral mcconnell said, all are necessary but not sufficient. yo