do you bequeath it to the archives or what will become of it? >> well, everybody in life has certain things that they like and one of the things i like is buying these documents and owning them and as an owner of them, i am responsible for the insurance on them, i'm responsible for the expense of the encasement and so forth. but you can't be buried with these documents as far as i know, so you can assume that the appropriate place will see these documents when i'm not on this earth. >> is there any other questions? if not, if you all would like to come up and take photographs. remember, i'm sure you've been told before, no -- and then we'll take you up for a tour in the rotunda and you can actually learn more about the document there. >> my name is marvin pinkert and i'm director of the national archives experience which is the name we give to the museum here. so, the encasement that you saw downstairs actually will slide into the case on my right. and that will be the home for the magna carta. this is where it was prior to the reencasement proj

he worked at the national archives beginning mid 90s. while here he began working on his next study with his co-author thomas d. phillips called the black regular, 1866 to 1898. this book was published in 2001. in 2003, the superb work received the western history association's robert m. utley award as the finest book on the military history of the north american western frontier. in 2002, willy joined the staff at the u.s. army center of military history. and in 2003 he began research on "freedom by the sword." so i'd like to introduce dr. doback by noting that all of his military studies have drawn extensively on the records housed here at the national archives. [ applause ] 6 >> thank you. let's see. i guess the microphones are on. so i trust that everyone can hear me. good. in march 2003, my branch chief at the u.s. army center of military history called me into his office, invited me to sit down and told me that my next project would be to write an operational history of the u.s. colored troops, that is a purely military history. i

michael knight, who is archive specialist here and he is going to actually introduce mr. dobak. >> i'd like to echo what lopez said and welcome you into the national archives, records administration. we have a very special speaker today, dr. william a.dobak, who will discuss his newest work. dr. dobak received his ph.d. from university of kansas in american studies in 1985. his published dissertation, ft. riley and neighbors, military money and economic growth 1853 to 1895 won the edward teahen award in 1995. he worked at national archives beginning in mid-'90s and while here he began working on his next study with co-author thomas t. phillips "black regulars: 1866 to 1899." this was published in 2001. in 2003 the work received the western history association's robert mnc. utley award as the finest book on revolutionary war. in 2002 he joined the staff of the u.s. army center of military history and in 2003 he began research on freedom by the sword. so, like to to introduce dr. dobak by noting that all of his military studies have drawn extensively on the records housed h

i am secretary of the national archives afro-american history society. i'm here to welcome you to hear william a.dobak to discuss u.s. colored troops during the civil war era. and i am here today just to let you know that the african-american history society atnar produces programs similar to this, not this program but ma'am programs similar to this promoting the study of african-american history through records at the national archives. and we have a number of programs coming up which you may have seen our flyer on the table outside discussing african-americans in the civil war, since that is the theme for african-american history month this year. celebrating the success kwi sen t10 -- success kwi centennial o the civil war. if you have time, we have one i will be presenting on february 16th on black soldiers from maryland in the civil war. if you have time, come back and join us. now i would like to also introduce mr. michael knight who is archives specialist and holdi holdings specialist here. he's going to introduce mr mr. dobak. >> i'd like to echo

it was misfiled by the senate long before the national archives received it. and we didn't know where those two pages were. >> the first thing that tipped me off was the heading. house of representatives. i knew that's how most presidential messages were transmitted. but as far as the text, i didn't immediately say oh, that's from the second annual message. i just did a quick internet search, and the text led me to confirm that this was indeed the text. i brought it to the legislative archivist's attention, bill davis and rodney baross. and they made the decision to remove it from the volume and return it to the rest of the copy that's in the vault. >> it's wonderful that we now know where it is, and we have put that page with the rest of the second annual message in our treasury's vault where we have some of our most -- some of our most historic items. in that room also we have, for example, george washington's inaugural address. we have several items from jefferson's presidency dealing with the louisiana purchase, lewis & clark expedition. we have things rel

, but the vatican secret archives.rd secret conjures up all sorts of ideas of mystery. >> talking about our weather, beautiful day to do anything, but you did something for a really good cause. >> it was great. i actually emceed an event today that was a tribute to women veterans and what a fantastic group. they were really passionate about everything they'd done and we hear more about male veterans, but what a stellar group of women and ginger miller led the charge and it was a huge successful event. i was happy to be part of it. >> you had great day for it. >> it was beautiful. we didn't get chantal later on, but it wasn't a bad -- sunshine till later on, but it wasn't a bad day. the clouds sticking around a bit tonight. we'll have to deal once again with the fog. we had it last night in the overnight hours and again early this morning. it kind of really stuck around a little bit before it started to move out, but that's the story. we have another night that will be mainly cloudy and the fog returns overnight. so obv

i would greatly appreciate if someone connected with the archives archival the answer the above inquiry just one word will suffice. please, comply with the small request and oblige. please find self-addressed envelopes for the reply as it is inconvenient to remit postage on neglected that part of my obligation but hope that you will incur in that expense and he signs again thinking you in advance i remain very respectfully john bush. calvo the connection to neitzsche's was less abashed than most others the ways in which he put the philosophy to work for self functioning was a common strategy that we see in all of these writers. they use the terms and aspects of his own life to describe themselves to themselves. one of the reasons why so many sought to fashion themselves in his language or after his image was because as the doctor of rochester minnesota expressed, neitzsche was more of a great spirit and a human being. so what we see in a lot of these letters is the strong unmistakable religious imagery that demonstrates this spiritual damage of the american neitzsche devotion to read af

which is the bulk of our holdings in the center for legislative archives. we have records from legislative support agencies as well, but the records of the house and senate are the bulk of our holdings. going from 1789 to the present. i've worked with the staff of the lincoln papers for -- since they've been here. and i've assisted them among my colleagues in serving them the records that they need to search for records pertaining to abraham lincoln. >> the papers of abraham lincoln is a long-term editing project from the abraham lincoln presidential library and museum to locate an image and frand describe and publish all of the documents written by lincoln or to lincoln during his entire lifetime. the papers of abraham lincoln began in 2001 as an expansion of the lincoln legal papers which have existed since 1985. we're systematically searching all of the record series that pertain to lincoln's presidency and a handful of series that pertain to his one term in congress. so we are trying to go systematically through each series that might contain documents.

i mean, do you get, in your archival research did you, could you. out how she contributes to fastening what's left for you, or is that -- >> thanks for really talented and hard-working historians, elizabeth's crucial role in nietzsche's career. when nietzsche has his mental breakdown in 1889, he spends the last 11 years of his life really stark raving mad. it gets worse, but that's when she takes over. and it's already in those years of his mental y. but where she is crafting nietzsche as a profit. she largely, many nietzsche scholars admit, we have elizabeth to thank the prior to his sister, prior to some early folks who discovered him, nietzsche, his name had not yet broken and she was instrumental. the unfortunate part of that story is that she was anti-semitic. she was very nationalistic. and, in fact, she is the one who, over the course of the early '30s, helps to make the nietzsche archives basically an incident or an institution devoted to the nazis. there's a famous picture where she welcomes hitler and there's a picture next, hitler next to

, though officials note archives are one thing and the archives are something else. >> dan brown's books are fun and very easy to read, the kind of thing you bring to the beach in the summer under an umbrella. >> reporter: but this exhibit is no trip to the beach. it's full of very serious stuff including the fires of hell. that's where heretics ended up if they didn't repent. the exhibit features 100 different items and organizers say the goal is to do away with the secrets. translator: we want lots and lots of young people and everyday people to come here with their own idea of the archives and to leave knowing what the vatican's secret archives are really all about. >> reporter: the exhibit includes proceedings from galileo's trial, a letter from lucretia borga. among the more interesting pieces, the deed of abdication of queen christine of sweden, a formidable and eccentric woman for whom it was more important to be catholic than to be queen. this exhibit has already had quite a bit of success and part of the reason is where these documents come from, not just the vatican archives, b

the problem in the archive is simply the fraud is of the record. they do not -- we are unable to have any kind of record of what degree, how many letters, the letters that are still extant request, in some cases we have of going letters that have been sent back, and some of them seemed very gracious and very particular. out of some of these letters she formed relationships with some people. she and relationships with a jamaican, heiress' it actually with comic early on. she had a relationship with northwest and philosopher by the name of james taft have fields, and import a philosopher in the early 20th century and even says collective volumes so that he can have it at northwestern. but it is very spotty. so what i don't have is how much is letters reflect how many letters came in, and we can't quite see the extent to which she wrote back, but i can see funny things. i understand that you cannot send an autograph. you need to keep his body intact. i respect that. i have records of other people saying thank you for the autograph. might have been ver

i also want to alert to you a couple of upcoming programs here at the national archives. on tuesday september 6th at noon michael beshallow and louisa thomas will discuss their book, a testament of faith in world war i. on thursday, september 8th at 7:00 p.m. we'll continue our series of programs in conjunction with our exhibit, what's cooking uncle sam, with a screen that explores the legacy of the school lunch program. participating in the post-screening discussion is dan glickman and others. we are also honored to once again welcome our partner on this the second women's equality day program we've done together. the sewall-belmont house and museum director. page harrington has been executive director of the sewall-belmont house since 2008 executive director of the sewall-belmont house since 2008. she served as president of united states naval memorial working with senior u.s. navy leadership to facilitate the reorganization of the business programs. she received her business degree at san diego state university and earned two masters degree from the university of san d

you've just got to go look for it. >> in terms of especially like state archives? >> well, since these were all federal troops, the national archives is, you know -- has their records. state historical societies, yes, have large numbers of -- i mean, i wrote the end of -- well, the account of the siege of mobile was heavily relied on stuff that i got from the minnesota historical society. so you never can tell where exactly it's going to pop up, but i didn't have to go west of topeka, kansas. [ inaudible ] [ inaudible question ] >> you have a question? >> yes. do you happen you to have any information on the abolitionist frederick douglas' sons who were in the 54th regiment? >> well, yeah. there's a photograph of the 54th. i mean, i quoted a letter from one of his sons, but biographical information, things like that? no. no. just what's in the book oh, yeah. >> i have a question if you could probably give us a difference in how those initial black units raised by the state's ajunt general -- directly by the war department and what happened to the ones raised by the

last 20 years with this sort of digital internet or local, state archives, things of that nature? >> well, i was at -- i was at the american antiquarium society in worcester, massachusetts, and the head librarian, or whatever his title is, said, oh, say, we just -- we just successioned some stuff by u.s. color troops officer. want to see it? yeah, yeah. very much. well, by the time, you know by the time "the freedom of the sword" came out, somebody else had edited and published his papers and annotated, you know, like a growth industry, like i said. yeah, you can -- well -- what is it, the library of american -- the official records are available online. yeah, certain -- i don't know. you just got to go look for it. >> well, in terms of like especially state archives, do you feel that there are things there that hadn't been consulted back then which are now becoming more available or -- >> well, since these were all federal troops, the national archives is, you know, has their records. state historical societies, yes, have large numbers of -- i mean, i wrote the end of -- well, th

obviously you've consulted here at the archives extensively. but have new things come to light the last 20 years with the sort of the digital internet or local state archives, things of that nature? >> well r, i was at the america antiquarian society in word chester, massachusetts. the head librarian or whatever his title was said, oh, say, we just excessioned some stuff by a u.s. colored troops officer. want to see it? and yeah. yeah. very much. well, by the time "freedom by the sword" came out, somebody else had already edited and published his papers and an notated editions. like a growth industry. like i said. yes you can well, what is it, the library of american -- the official records are available online. and yes, certain -- i don't know. you've just got to go look for it. >> in terms of like especially state archives, do you feel that there are things there that hadn't been consulted back then which are now becoming more available? >> oh. well, since these were all federal troops, the national archives is -- has their records. state his

. >> join us next weekend for more oral histories from the vietnam archive. that airs saturday at 8:00 a.m., sunday at 3:00 p.m. and monday at 4:00 a.m. eastern. for more information and to watch past oral histories, visit our website, c-span.org/history. >>> louisiana governor bobby jindal is scheduled to reveal his proposal for balancing the state budget for the next fiscal year to date, a budget, $900 million in the red. in shreveport it's mostly cloudy and 37 degrees at the airport, 38 at barksdale and 38 in men den. you're listening to shreveport news radio 710 keough. >> this weekend book tv and "american history tv" look at shreveport, louisiana. today at noonest earn on become tv author gary joiner on the union army's failure in louisiana "one dam blunder from beginning to end: the red river campaign of 1864" then a look at the 2,000 books of the james smith noel collection at the shreveport archives. then a walking tour of shreveport and bowsier city with neal johnson, on "american history tv" on c-span three, from parks dale air force base, a look a

i would say that probably the search here of the national archives will go on for several more years. four or five, perhaps. then we have to go back to springfield, transcribe and annotate this material. part of it is finding it. a big part is transcribing so people who can't read all the handwriting will be able to read all the documents. finally to annotate them so we have the context. people understand what the document meant at the time. because even if you can read the words, sometimes they don't make any sense if you don't understand the issues of the day. the ultimate goal is that we will publish these documents online. now, that won't be right away. but we will publish transcriptions and the images of the documents of everything we're finding at the national archives. >> any human being over the age of 16 can come here to the national archives and use our holdings. more and more is available online. that takes time. digitization takes time. but as time goes on, more and more is available through our website. we certainly encourage researchers to use -- to look at our website,

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of 16 can come here to the national archives and use our holdings. more and more is available online. that takes time. digitization takes time. more and more is available through our website. we certainly encourage researchers to look at our website, see what we have, discover all of the different record books that we have here and then they are -- anyone is free to come here and search our holdings. >> for more information about this research project, visit papersofabrahamlincoln.org. >>> throughout the weekend here on american history tv on c-span3, watch personal interviews about historic events on oral histories. our history bookshelf features some of the best known history writers. revisit key figures, battles and events during the 150th anniversary of the civil war. visit college classrooms across the country during lectures in history. go behind the scenes at museums and historic sites on american artifacts. and the presidency looks at the policies and legacies of past american presidents. view our complete schedule at c-span.org/history and s

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i think well we will think about it but look the archives there is a. personal data so we've come through election process with your wife will be easier. i say yeah girlfriend than a lot of stuff going in the personal life of the people so ok ok thank you thank you very much for being with us and just to remind you that right yesterday was the silk deputy communications minister of russia and that's it for now for all of us here strike light we'll be back with more first on common fund was going on and outside russia until then stay on r.t. and take your. russia votes for president r.t. looks at the five running for the kremlin top job the candidate jealousies you gonna love sixty seven turns to achieve most of communism from before his time on the record second in all presidential elections since the end of the u.s.s.r. the two thousand and twelve votes will be his fourth plan for presidency free education and housing polish illegal immigration and introduce ethnicity stance in passports controversy to colors communists usually vote with prudence party

i also want to alert you to a couple of upcoming programs here at the national archives. on tuesday, september 6 at noon, michael and luisa will discuss the book "conscience, two soldiers, two pacifists, one family, a test of will and faith in world war i." and a book signing will follow. thursday, september 8, we'll continue our series of programs in conjunction with our exhibit. participating in the post screening discussion will be former secretary of agriculture dan grikman, and others. to find out more about this and all of our exhibits and public programs, refer to our monthly calendar of events. copies are in the lobby with the signup sheet to be included on the mailing list for the calendar. we are also honored to welcome our partner on this the second women's equality day program we've done together. it's my pleasure to introduce our moderator, executive director paige harrington, who will give us an overview and lead us into tonight's discussion. she's been executive director of the belmont house since 2008. prior to joining the museum, she served as the vice pr

it took me about two years of archives, days in the archives to figure that out. so professor manning, as you went through these letters will were soldiers, let's start with the north, were you finding northern soldiers sang about slavery? >> at the beginning i was struck by the wide range of opinions on slavery. at the beginning it really is about union for most common of all, but most, and what i mean by that is that most of them enter the war convinced that the united states has to survive. it has to survive to show the world that representative government to work. these guys were kids in 1848, a series of revolutions in 1848 as they see it failed. failed democratic revolutions and so they see the united states, this is a tone of this is the world's last shot. if the government works here it will never be tried again. said the state's think that they can destroy the government, which is how union soldiers see it, because they didn't like to get elected . government doesn't work. so we have to prove that this bank to survive. that is have a start. but we don't h

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so one of the national archives is faded and rather difficult to see. whereas this one is a nice, bright signature and easily recognizable as john hancock. there were men who participated in the american revolution who signed the declaration of independence. they were very daring men. they had no money. they had to finance a war on their own signatures, essentially. and i think he was interested in the mechanics and the administrative details of how that was accomplished, most people, i think, when they read about the american revolution and the battles, they get involved in the military strategy and there's quite a lot of that. i mean, he does have quite a lot of information having to do with the war. but, also, the letters have to do, for instance, washington's letter has to do with administrative details on his farm later in life. and i think he was trying to show that the american founding fathers were actually people who lived and died just like anyone else did. on the far left, we have a piece that is signed by benjamin franklin. and benjamin fran

about 45 minutes in we'll go to louisiana state university shreveport campus for a look inside their archives, james smith noel's collection of over 200,000 books housed there. >> agm in the collection, it is probably going to be this one, it's one of the books we're most proud of. >> and we travel around the city with neil johnson, author of shreveport and boaz your city which gives many of the different areas and landmarks of this city with a population of about 90,000. >> all these stories this more as booktv travels to shreveport, louisiana. >> the red river campaign was the only campaign many that pivotal l year of 1864 that the union lost, and they didn't want to write about it. it was an embarrassment. and the south was in no position to brag on it because they were in the process of losing the war. so it sat for about a century. only the locals appreciated it. and then research really started picking up with the centennial of the war, and a few historians have touched it. i've spent a lot of time on it just trying to figure out the nuances of it. and, um, it's a campaign that needs to

the appeal to go in there already to appeal to the one campus where the archives of the papers of the bay area jewish community and all california are now accessible. to they have regular opening hours and became accessible to the public. to equate to a schoolteacher in a public school or the case who wants to come into include the madness in their teaching in the classroom and they can bring their second grade students to come and to visit with but a session be more directly in contact with jewish culture and the madness collection is so unusual and unique in that houses the collection of the lives of real folks here in the bay area so what if somebody is out there thinking i have some significant pieces of art center of paper and ephemera can they call a madness up and down a stepfamily material to the madness? >>> we absolutely will continue to collect actively and set 1 can go to the web sites and there's a button that says how to do materials and just what form and let us know what kinds of materials. >>> there will be guided. >>> what kind of material does the madness like to ha

you know, i've always been a huge fan of libraries and archives and archivists really. but i've really come to appreciate how important it is in the last few weeks when i undertook this book about pennsylvania avenue and back in the day, but beginning in 1950, and the trouble with beginning at any point is that you need context for what came before that point in time, which is already 60 some years ago. so things like these oral histories are invaluable as well as things like the afro archive especially considering that the white press did not cover the black community at all. which is disgraceful, but a sign of those times. but in trying to develop -- to put those times in context in the new century, there are only so many chances you have to talk to people. people get old. they suffer from dementia. they die. there are people you can't talk to anymore about what it was like in the '40s or what it was like running, you know, running a candidate against the pollak machine in the '50s. i was lucky must have to hold on to my own notes from years ago talking to people. tal

traditionally it's our libraries and our archives that ensure there's long-term access and permanent preservation to important government information. and i think that there are certainly some interesting things going on now in terms of libraries and archive kooifs and the way they ensure that is available over the long term. and we're in the midst of a transition as to how that role is played in the dejal age. and i think that this particular example is one where there's probably some room for new initiatives and improvements in the way both government and the library and archives community is playing the role to ensure that there is transparency, not just in the short term, but over the long hall. >> mary ann? >> yes, just one more thing to say. recently i talked to someone at justice for one of the reports, and they started thinking we were all going to call them libraries on our thing. so if they're going to tell us in a sense to change things, this might also be a good time to let them know about this, since they seem to tell us how to change how we're keeping our libraries onli

can be tackled with you know that something may be done with the archives but. there will be to our quest for peace one is in each notebook really and another in the detail is a really easy will be some criticize someone so sometimes. it's very t.v. man so you know you're it's very difficult to compromise. well online online in a film you know to facilitate with it and i will not always know cattle will never get. it so i don't think that anybody will be able to quality will we see the quality now we see it here on this laptop but when we start working with paper or for example our this piece of paper to a camera and i try to i try to see can we read what's written on this paper and on your particular paper and not know but on the protocol there will be large courtly of the throttle and currently we have only five hundred parts and you can see where that crosses yes. so there's a so if i hold the protocol right. then there will be five people and very importantly there is a sound recording as well and. chief. election committee will release their town land and s

to woodfield who is in charge of the as i use archives have become quite a friend of my. liking for pink gins which i shared this really connection paid off and i was usually in a position to get files rather more quickly and easily than many of my colleagues on the run of the roads to be. the british intelligence representative. in charge of the whole of the iberian peninsula which was quite an important job because all the peace fevers that came from germany towards britain during that difficult period when it was doubtful whether britain could stand the attack came through the iberian peninsula came. during world war two leslie park is a top secret location in britain the most valuable information comes from this including center. british forces can decode into say. the german radio messages faster than anyone else. but they're not prepared to share much information with a soviet allies. britain possesses several german way it can ignore cryptographic machines they can only decode messages if they recognize the key the problem is that the germans change that every day

downtown, the national archives building for the first time ever this week has been on display the original freedom of information act. i know some people in the room have made it by this week. if you haven't, and you have a chance to, i am not suggesting anybody would want to leave this program early -- but if you find yourself downtown somewhere around pennsylvania and 7th streets this afternoon, stop in, in the rotunda of the national archives and look at the display. we hope this will become an original sunshine week event, but we were proud to have the original law displayed there for the first time. >> does it show president johnson's signature in a shaky hand or a firm hand? because we gather he was a little bit shaky about signing? >> we understand from historians there was a bit of kicking and screaming involved, but the signature is there quite firmly, and it did become law, and there we go. i wanted to express appreciation for being able to have the benefit of sue long's historical perspective this morning. it really does make you realize how far we have come with changes in the

prior to being the director of the information services decision at unesco in paris she was at the archives a where she was the right-hand person to several ark viss over the years. she was the american counsel for the library association and 30 years ago mariam was the best darn deputy director that the office of information privacy ever had by far, a position she held for a dozen years from 1982 to 1994. so with that, i'm going to just let mariam go on for the rest of the panel and we're going to be able to talk about very interesting developments i would think not only about ogis in general, but during sunshine week in particular. >> thank you very much, dan. good morning, everybody. >> good morning. >> i know this is a little late in sunshine week to be mentioning this, but you do have a little bit of time left. downtown the national archives building for the first time ever this week has been on display, the original freedom of information act. and if you -- i know some people in the room have made it by this week. if you haven't, and you have a chance to, i'm not suggesting anybody wo

can be tackled with you know that something may be done with the archives. well as there will be to our quest corp a one is in each note book written as in the. they will be some criticize somewhere so sometimes. it's very t.v. man so you know you it's very difficult to compromise while online online. feel free to facility it was a very well not always no catalogue. so i don't think that the anybody will the quality will we see the quality now we see it here on this laptop but when we start working with paper roll for example out of this piece of paper camera and i try to i try to see can we read what's written on this paper and on your particular approach and not know but on the protocol there will be enlarged or people brought home and this country we have only five hundred parts and you can see where the cross is yes not so so so if i hold the protocol right like this then there will be five people and very importantly there is a sound recording as well and. chief. election committee will release their town line and show you who's approaching now the ques

she spent days buried in the national archives and other archives but also went out, confronted people face to face. she used all those methods. >> where was she from? >> from urbana, illinois. we met in college at university of illinois in the mid-80s an were friends since then. >> what kind of relationship did you have as friends? >> at first i didn't know what to make of her. she was many steps ahead of me. few internships, every time there was one, she would get it, before i even thought of applying to it, she would have already gotten it. that's how -- so far ahead of us, and she actually had the idea to write for the "new york times," as a correspondent, called them up and soon she had stories in the front section of the "new york times." we're thinking, who does that? you know? what to make of her, but then i saw -- i was her editor there and i saw what real talent backed up this incredible nerve, and i decided to emulate her instead of seeing her as a rival. and through the years both of us wrote books, and we were both sounding boards, and she became a huge role model of what

>> guest: well, certainly the battlefield archive has the largest amount. but monroe, michigan, and the national archives would follow the battlefield. c-span: you've got a picture in here of general custer's wife at what age? >> guest: she's 22 in that picture. c-span: where did they meet? >> guest: in monroe, michigan, where she was a native, and he moved there following his sister and her husband. and eventually his whole family moved to monroe from ohio where he had been born. c-span: wasn't there a dispute about the statue in ohio, and --versus monroe, michigan? did they end up putting the statue in -- what is it? what's the name of that --new rumley or something? >> guest: yes, they did ultimately put a statue there as well. c-span: what was the controversy? >> guest: well, i suppose, arguing as to whether custer was a native son of one place or the other. c-span: how did these -- i mean, when they got married, how long were they married, how many years? >> guest: they were married for 12 years. and then, of course, libby bacon custer was a widow for

this is one of the posters and these are archival photographs. this shows the ccc boys. many of them had been riding the rails. they were starving. they were illiterate. here they are in one of the camps, which were run by the army and it was like a military organization. they were out in the wilderness. you could leave if you wanted to. this was a civilian conservation core. this is not trickle down next. in fact, it worked. it began to float local economies. they did an enormous amount of work. they wanted millions of trees. i looked over into alabama across a great forest of trees that were 70 years old. they're planted in huge numbers. imagine the kind of wildlife that becomes. they did an enormous amount of work and when the war was here, there was ready to go fight. this was not what this was intended to do. there are a few statues. they built a lot of lodges and visitor centers. these are just beautiful. amount of landscapes of ccc. this is the park. they did the work in them. the civil works administration was short lived. it was to get the people through the win