it was to give the states the ability to administer those programs, it was to give the states a great deal of flexibility in running those programs and that's exactly what medicaid is. >> that's exact lip what medicaid was. i absolutely take your case. cooperative federalism is a beautiful thing. mandatory federalism has very little to oppose it. >> it does not mean there are no federal restrictions involved in a program that uses 90% here, 100% federal money. it means there's flexibility built into the program subject to certain rules that the federal government has about how it wishes its money to be used. it's like giving a gift certificate. if i give you a gift certificate for one store, you can't use it for other stores, but still, you can use it for all kinds of different things. >> i absolutely agree that if it's cooperative federalism and the states have is choices, then that is perfectly okay. but when -- that's why voluntariness and coercion is so important. because if you force the state to participate in a cooperative program. a state official shouldn't explain if a state

we're not going to give up. there's no reason to give up.here is investment in people to be had here. wonderful people who live here want mendell plaza to be more successful, the bayview opera house. we open up a couple other storefronts along third street. we're going to continue doing that with the personal investments that people are making on housing. i want to continue thanking the former commissioners of our redevelopment agency. leroy king is here today. along with commissioner dar. thank you. [applause] i want to thank the bayview merchants association. thank you for constantly working with us here and making sure we do the right thing and communicate with all the people and not let go. i want to thank our police department. the captain is here. he is working with everybody thank you for being here. [applause] askinder is very worldly. he knows what is happening in our city and in this neighborhood. he is investing in an neighborhood he knows very well and investing in people. that is what makes a great menu, if i can put that connec

of just give you one example. one thing that treasury secretary tim geithner just recently mentioned again. that is, the claim is, countries that suffered bad financial crises are going to have slower recoveries. do we see bigger increases in unemployment in the ones that were said to have had these financial crisis was the others? impact, if anything the reverse is true. if you looked at the diagram that we have here, the countries that are in the bold black of the ones that were apparently facing a financial crisis, were not facing it, and they agree when is the was the work. the fed, you see a bigger increase in unemployment in the countries that were not facing the financial crisis. the reverse was true. you could share the same set of thing with regard to gdp, and we go through a whole range of different types of explanations here. okay. i guess that's it. but, you know, the important thing here is that if you're going to convince people, if you're going to help them understand why these policies failed and h

but i have to give kirsten a lot of credit. >> i give her credit too. >> but it's not just conservative women. hillary clinton was treated extremely viciously by these people, particularly chris matthews. it's really women whenever they feel women are getting out of their place. whenever you are not in your place. >> no, people defended hillary clinton on both sides. they came out, they spoke out against that, and said this is ridiculous. there's no place for this in the media. >> not everybody, though. i think kirsten is right. i hate to agree with kirsten over you, kate. but it's true. hillary's campaign even liked me do during their battle against then senator obama. but that's a story i will save for a book many years from now. guys, good to see you. coming up, nancy pelosi's daughter is out with a new video. this time she talks to welfare recipients in new york city receiving what they call obama bucks. and later it's the executive order that the white house tried to bury late friday afternoon but tonight we call out the president in our next installment of the real obama as the ve

give the president and his team a grade on how they did on the video? what are you giving them.riple a. i think it is a stunning video. and i think it is narrated with tom hanks who is a great actor with compassion and sense of feel it draws me in. and i might not agree with the policies of the administration, but i look and i get taken in and that's something that the left does better than us. and it is a beautiful piece of prop. . >> sally. >> i don't gree with the agiprop but give a triple a. this is what the president has to do say it is getting better. and what the video does well is put out facts . facts about the 22 straight months was job growth and that will be what it takes. >> it is a halo. and i particularly liked it when he walked across the water and changed my cough tow champagne. it is a campaign video rather see that or mitt mitt romney attacking somebody? >> depends on your point of view. >> i agree that it is a campaign video and intended to be propaganda. he hasn't blamed anybody. don't buy that. and as a piece of art it is brilliant and frankly the republica

us what the plan is and give us negotiating direction. ok. >> the converse to that is, do it sooner rather than later so you can be clear with teatro zinzanni. >> we want to deal with our tenant in good faith. >> i appreciate that. very good solution. >> one other question. is there a second choice site? >> no, not on port property. >> ok. i think it is processed. i like anything theatrical done at the port. with that being said, i also think it is important that -- we are in a couple of different -- we are neighbors. the way this is being built, i don't have the full vision, nor do you at this point. that is what we're stumbling on. the process by which is going forward, we want to give them a good tenant. we've relocated them. the opportunity to move forward. we want to take care of the neighbors as well. it is not easy. whatever the processes, i am happy to move whatever forward we can with that, with having the meeting as soon as we can. >> thank you. i think you have given us the kind of feedback all the parties in the room were look

we will give you the results tomorrow. next on the run down, shocking videotape welfare recipients in their own words. you have got to see this. who will win the illinois primary tomorrow night? we're coming right back.  recently she interviewed a bunch of southern people who disparaged president obama. now she has a new video where she talks with welfare recipients. >> i'm here trying to get some obama buck. that's what i'm doing. trying to get some obama money. >> i'm here to get some benefits. i'm here to get the checks. i want a check. >> tell me why you like obama. >> because he gives me stuff. >> election. >> obama. >> why? >> because he is black. >> when is the last time you actually worked? >> i would say about half a decade. >> you are perfectly healthy young man, why aren't you working right no. >> because my background. once you go to jail, it's hard to get a job. >> why should i help you? why should my tax dollars be going to you? >> only because my ancestors came here and helped build this place. >> what do

in most cases, they have the to give back. it is a woman's nature to nurture, and she will nurture every single person, spas, a family member, pat, it's, employers and -- family members, pets, plants, employers, before she will nurture herself, but it is not until a woman is about 55 or 63 and she is all by herself reader response has left her career and her children -- she is all by herself. her husband has left her. her children have left her. -- her children stay at home. she finally starts to say, what about me? when women come together, rather than work against each other, which they do. i cannot begin to believe how much women love when i fail, as if when i fail it is going to make them a bigger success. their ratings will be better on their tv shows. we have got to stand by one another. [applause] we have got to help one another. it is everything everybody is doing on stage, but it is what you are going to do for yourself as well when you go home. are you going to stop giving away to family members who are not working?

i will give it back to captain perry. he wants to give the closing remarks. >> thank you. in conclusion, and thank you for your attention. we would like to close with a powerful video that sends a message of hope to our city's lgtb youth. -- lgbt youth. >> we are excited to see it again. [inaudible] ♪ >> i am a sgt. >> i am a commander. >> i am a 911 dispatcher. >> my name is michelle martina's and i am a commander with the police department. >> i am a police officer. >> i am an officer with the san francisco police. >> i grew up in new york city. >> houston, texas. my father was a sicilian. >> my mother is a catholic. >> my mom is from japan. >> i was a bit of a tomboy. a full-fledged tomboy. >> it got awkward and strange because i had to start trying to act and look like one. >> my choice of dress was always in jeans and converse tennis shoes. i was always checking out of the girls. >> i had close friendships with my girlfriends. hiding from my senior prom date. >> there was never somebody i could talk to because i thought i was different. >> i already knew by five that

give me one second, please, mr. chairman. i know it's less than 2/3rd of 1%. >> do you have a dollar amount? >> i can give you the amount of foreign activities, because very little of what is for foreign activity actually goes outside the country. that is $844,985. >> repeat that, it's for what? >> for programs that have to do with the international programs, sir. >> the reason i'm asking the question is when we do have a $16 trillion federal debt and most economists believe it's going to be a serious obstacle for economic development in the future. you said that $800,000 or something for international. and we have found, for example, that epa gave us $17,800 grant to help china comply with stockholm convention agreements. we found $700,000 to the thailand for methane gas for pig farms. we found you gave money in indonesia and so forth. were you aware of the money given to china? >> i'm aware for many years epa has funded grants that are international or transboundary in nature. we have an international office. as i mentioned

you have got to give them love. i did not hear you. >> you have got to give them up. >> there you go. for all the lgbt younger people struggling with police, we say -- >> you've got to give them love. >> a sign of hope -- we say -- >> you that got to give them love. it is wonderful to see each and every one of those gives power to help in our world. to you all, we say -- >> you have got to give them love. >> for all of us to leave here tonight with the resolve to reach one person in our lives, we say -- i would like to steal this blessing with the whole the blessing of glitter. i have been asked not to use clipper. like our love, it's everywhere. now with the energy res drawn from the street, from the energy rays in our house, we know you'll all with the holy blessing of our love, and may our love spread, made this glitter remain -- oop -- this love remain with you as long as it is needed, and made it remain with each and every party that needs magic and mike. repeat after me. what joy? more joy. i want to hear you

i had to give a bit of thought to the purpose of these boxes in which box by fit in. so, i was born in iran and it is in the continent of asia, a marked agent. so, in asian. you should have seen the look on the administrator when i turned in my application. today those boxes no longer applied. we all live in one world and we are all the same. we are part of the same energy. we can no longer take the attitude of not in my backyard. in today's world, if someone in china sneezes, we all catch the flu in san francisco. we have seen the impact of such a ripple effect in the recent economic crisis. in today's global economy, peace in the least, the aids epidemic in africa, the world hunger crisis, and making sure that every child has access to a decent education is all -- our responsibility. we have to use diplomacy to prevent war. we have to have compassion for mankind, no matter which continent they are from or which color they are, creed or religion. we all have to do our part to bring peace, harmony, and equality to the world. thank you so much for this amazing award. [

give me liberty and give me give me. here is the catch. we can't have liberty and give me give me.. >> bill: obviously 16 trillion-dollar debt if we doubled it to 32 maybe we could do it. janine, i think you see the point here. we are not trying to put anybody down or ruin san collapse social life, all right? we are saying this is crazy out-of-proportion, leave american taxpayers alone and spend their money on important things that are vital to the nation. go. >> yes. we are not feeling antigovernment. no, no. we don't feel anti-women is antigovernment. >> bill do we want to pay now or pay later? that's the reality. >> bill: so now you have fallen back on the cliche that i just destroyed. >> no. you did not. you did not. >> bill: having you set up a private apparatus where you have clinics. you already have them. planned parenthood. you just blew that off and go back to your cliche if we don't pay for people's birth control there are going to be babies all over the place. i just told you you don't have to do it that way. provide privately what you are saying and you just blow it of

whoever wants to give money can give whatever they want to give to whoever they want to give it and everybody, all of that has to be disclosed in such a way that everybody can find that information if they want it. >> wes, i think we need to elect you to congress. that's exactly what we ought to be doing. seriously. the worst thing that ever happened in campaign finance is the mccain fine gold so called campaign finance reform. its ridiculous, and it made the system worse, not better. your idea is the right one. let everybody stand up and be counted for the money they give and for the message they say and we'll know who is saying what and why are they saying it. that would be a better answer. i vote for you for congress, wes. look forward to your campaign soon. all right. hope that helped you on super pacs. coming up, rock and pop music like you've never heard it before. youtube sensation the two [ male announcer ] if you believe the mayan calendar, on december 21st, polar shifts will reverse the earth's gravitational pull and hurtle us all into space, which would render retirement planning u

if i can give more to the city, i will. thank you. [applause] >> they have extra photographers that travel with them. let's hear it one more time for jocelyn and her family. thank you very much. [applause] >> i graduated from the university of california berkeley with a degree in civil engineering. i started with the department of public works in 1984. in 2003, i was asked to come to san francisco public utilities commission to take the meat on the program. i'm responsible for all the large capital projects for water, waste water, and power. it's about $12 billion of capital projects. we have a lot of projects. our water system improvement program, 80 products that span seven counties. we have a staff of about 400 city employees and about 500 consultants. puc is really embracing technology. we wanted to make sure we really had a system that would elevate all issues so we could address them in a timely manner. as you know, time is money. we have a construction management information system. it is a great tool to help us address constru

give it up for the lovely zooey deschanel! thank you. >> jimmy: thanks so much for coming back. >> thanks for having me back. >> jimmy: look how pretty, now, on the front, of "allure" magazine. look at how pretty this is. [ cheers and applause ] "hollywood's cutest weirdo." what do you think of that? do you like it? >> gosh, you know, hey. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: that's a good comeback. i guess. >> i mean, yeah, sure. cool. whatever you want to call me, i mean, i guess i'm fine with. >> jimmy: yeah. you're fine with that, cutest weirdo. >> cutest weirdo. >> jimmy: yeah, you're the cutest weirdo. >> better than being the ugliest weirdo. >> jimmy: i guess so. >> or maybe the weirdest one. >> jimmy: the weirdest weirdo? >> god, that would be terrible. >> jimmy: no. you're definitely the cutest weirdo out there. >> cause, there's definitely weirder. >> jimmy: yeah, there's much weirder people than you. oh my gosh, there was a line to get in here tonight. it was just insane. you're hosting "snl" this weekend. >> yes, i'm so excited.

let's give a hand for them.ause] the good government awards also support spur's good government work. it is a central part of our mission. our agenda is admittedly ambitious. we analyze every local measure on the san francisco ballot, which until recently was a pretty formidable task. we participate in most of the major issues of city government from pension and payroll tax reform to some of the most important discussions on how we fund a lot of our public services, whether that finding different revenue streams for our parks, are trying to find new ways to fund public transportation in the city. we're very happy to be working with mayor lee and the board to address a lot of these issues. this will clearly be a busy year for us. another component of our work is connecting the city's robuspro o assistance with our many business partners. this is a core part of mfac original purpose in san francisco. we are focused on building this capacity once again. as everyone here knows, the nature of how cities are doing bus

we did the process to give the lower neighbor the ability to exercise his rights. good i told him he could appeal straight to the permit and avoid a hearing. he chose to do both. it is a unique circumstance of we were not able to schedule a hearing any sooner than next week. that is set for next week, who survived is the fact is here. i can speak to the merits of the case if you would like, but i want to address about from first -- address the background first. >> was there are hearing on this matter? >> there was no hearing at the historic preservation commission. internally, staff did discuss this. they did meet and discuss, and the department has no problem with the proposal before you during your -- before you. >> they approved a permit? >> and provided comments to the window replacement was appropriate, because those were concerns raised by the appellants. >> i do not know what relevance it would have, but there is a staff recommendation as to whether or not they should take the dr? >> it will be issued tomorrow, but i can tell you the preliminary recommendati

i'm giving out exhibit b for the defense. i'm giving you ipos. there have been more than 30 of them this year. and do you know that only six of those have lost you money while the vast majority have made you huge sums of cash? i see ten deals that made 40% and another five that made you more than 20%. that's certainly more than half the ipos. meanwhile, the losers, with the exception of two, the others have lost you only 6% or less. ipos have been a gold mine this year. which brings me to this annie-o-mid. we've been loving the natural foods. pounding the table all 2012. 23% in whole foods. i said over and over again people want the healthy alternative. sure enough, this morning, annie's became public. mac and cheese, snacks, all natural. all loved. number one in the category. who would have thunk mack and sleaze could make you so much money? and how did you do it? you nearly caught a double in a single day's trading. this is a food company for heaven's sake, not some internet tool company. it's a stock that looked like it was going to sell from

each will give one minute for summation. all of the candidates were invited at the same time several weeks ago and made adjustments for their schedules to be here. >> ron paul declined our preeted invitations to be here for tonight aer foes r-- tonight's . first fox business correspondent charles gasperino. also labor secretary under george bush and distinguished fellow and fox news contributor elaine chow and business owner dave mcarthur who owns and operates mcarthur's bakery in st. louis, missouri. >> charlie, you are going to be looking for specific things from these candidates tonight. tell me what you are hoping to hear them say? >> well, basically i want them to go beyond the numbers. i deal with numbers every day. these guys love to talk about numbers when they talk about the economy. i want to hear more than i am taking the corporate tax rate down to 20 percent to get jobs going. i want to see meat on the bones. >> secretary chow you have had long issues of labor to find a way to create jobs. specifically are there

we'll give you a lot of work.n an award. >> we won judge's choice at the masquerade, we were excited, and it just turned out awesome. >> now let's get political. it's a political show. if superman was voting who would he vote for? >> he would vote for barack obama. >> you think so. >> i think he would. there would be stipulations. he would have to adhere to certain principles of freedom and truth to get his vote. >> so some of those secret memos on secret liberties. >> those might suddenly pop out. i imagine superman holding them saying, i got something in this briefcase. [laughing] >> how about you holly. any particular favorite among all these comic book characters, and which candidate do you think they go for? >> oh, man, i have always been a fan of dr. strange. >> that's got to be newt gringrich. >> i don't know, you know, he's pretty freedom with information kind of guy. i think he would go for obama. >> morgan, conservatives, i imagine, call you progressive from time to time. >> yes. >> or very often. more t

he give me 15 minutes. i say, how are you going to give me 15 minutes? it takes a day of my time to come up here and give me 15 minutes. but i'm going to take what i need to take. what else are you going to do when you get up here? i'm going to leave you with this and you got to listen to this. the myth of absent. in american history as in american life, black americans are invisible presence. did you hear what i just said? you got to just listen to that a little bit because it's got to sink in a little bit. they are not seen not because of their absence but because of the presence of a myth that prepares and requires their absence. did you hear what i just said? they are not seen not because of their absence but because of the presence of a myth that prepares and requires their absence. the myth of absence which expresses this idea and intention operates not by misinterpretation and slander but by silence and exclusion. by simply not mentioning certain realities and by removing black actors from scenes in which they played supporting roles, the manipula

it's like giving a gift certificate. if i give you a gift certificate for one store, you can't use it for other stores. but still you can use it for all kinds of different things. >> but i absolutely agree if it's cooperative federalism and the states have choices, then that is perfectly okay. but when -- that's why voluntariness and coercion is so important. because if you force a state to participate in the federal program, then -- i mean, as long as it's voluntary, then a state official shouldn't complain if a citizen complains to the state about the way the state is administering a federal program that it volunteered to participate in. but at the point it becomes coercive, then it's not fair to tell the citizen to campaign to the state official. they had no choice. but who do they complain to at the federal level? there's nobody there, which would be -- i'm not saying it's it's best solution to have federal stumentalities in every state but it's actually better than what you get when you have mandatory federalism and

>> i would say i would give myself higher. >> secretary, i am going to give you a grade.going toive give you an "f." it's up 110%. you have an "f." >> i totally agree with you, eric. i want to congratulate lehigh university! dream killers ruining everybody's brackets on friday, beating duke in a 75-70 victory. now they went on to get crushed by xavier -- hold o. but they still made the mountain hawks and every alumni of lehigh university very proud. so congratulations, boys! >> you should get that helium all the time. >> i am going to protect my integrity and not do helium. i will not reduce myself to the helium talking. i will talk about tim tebow because big announcement myby my hometown, denver broncos are paiking up peyton manning for a cool $96 million and there are rumors that tebow will go to miami, maybe flor day. i think jacksonville, north florida group. went, he went to florida. i think tebow in florida makes a lot of sense and jacksonville makes more sense. >> you sucked helium on national television. >> this is an important story. in a way, i was make a stand

all the numbers, they cannot give it to you. they just bother you with unnecessary questions. if you have a new system, you should have the ability that of someone asks for a quarry, a particular location, the same people living there, all of the numbers, this is what is happening all over san francisco. when it comes to these cases where the police are called 15, 20, 30 times in two or three weeks and when you ask 911 for the numbers, they don't have the ability to give it to you or, if they do have the ability, they just make it difficult. we need an upgrade, but as i am telling you, you waited too long for this to happen. [tone] if you do have an upgrade, it has to serve the constituents of san francisco. supervisor chu: thank you. are there other members of the public who wish to speak on item number three? seeing a nun, public -- seeing none, public comment is closed. we have a motion to move the sport as recommended that we will do so without objection. thank you. item #4? >> ordinance amending the san francisco administra

how do you do that if the west bank without giving up any land. >> i think you have to give up land. >> stephen: that's not my question. how do you do it without giving up any land because that is the betrayal of the state of israel ooferment's not even jewish and i'm angry. i'm a christian. we christians know ask pat robertson. you guys have to keep all the west bank or else no rapture, jesus don't come back. >> you can also read exodus, we read it to say we remember the heart of the stranger because we were strangers in the land of egypt. and we don't want to treat the strangers amongst us in a way that violates our own ethical traditions. >> stephen: you think this whole problem to could get better if the palestinian was give some sort of goodwill gesture, something small like recognizing 9 right of israel to exist. >> absolutely. some palestinians have done exactly that. not enough, more should, but the question is how do we strengthen those who have, and the only way we strengthen them is by giving them the pont of their own state. >> stephen: i'm glad that you and i in six and

but you want to give it your all, all the way.ou don't want to slack and say, i'm counting down the days and i really don't have to apply myself. >> absolutely. the temptation is there but don't treat yourself as a lame duck. you're still a member of the team. >> and then you want to stay in touch with colleagues in what way? to what degree? sometimes people quit but it seems that they are still there. i don't know if that is good career-wise. which is it? >> well, don't totally disappear. you want to leave your contact information, where you're going to be, and any records of your particular job that may be useful to anyone coming into that role. with websites, linkedin, update your status of where you're going to be because it's a small world and we all -- especially similar industries, you cross paths again. it's all the more reason why you don't want to reply all with your angry e-mail. >> thank you so much. great advice. if you know a notice is coming or you want to give notice, do it the right way. thanks a lot. >>> northern

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[applause] let's give them another round. ok.gs us to the acknowledgements and closing remarks. on behalf of the san francisco african-american historical society, i would -- something like this cannot happen without the involvement of a lot of people. and some of those people on the back of your programs, we have listed all the members of the committee who worked hard and long to make this happen. nobody worked as hard as kirsten in the mayor's office out of the office of may -- neighborhood services. let's give kirsten and the committee a big round of applause for their contributions to this great effort. we have another -- a number of proclamations that was received from senator feinstein and boxer and other offices. a couple of other people we do have with you. michael sweet is with us and sheriff ross mirkarimi is with us. let's give them around of applause. hansothis is a membership organization. open to any -- anyone. ms. kelly spoke to in her remarks. you wrote him to join us. there is information about the society and re

we're here to give a brief overview of the community ambassadors program. many of you have seen our ambassadors in the street. there referred to in many ways. the yellow jackets as the chief likes to refer to them. they're there for the community. we operate the ambassadors program on a full-time basis now. our office is a policy of direct services office, we work with underserved, low income, vulnerable populations, also immigrants, illegal, and limited english-speaking communities. under the umbrella of specific engagement, we focus on ensuring that the city's programs and policies are inclusive and fair. we are about an equal and just and save society, not just for some, but for everybody. for everyone who lives and works in san francisco. we have many partners in district 10 on this [unintelligible] ycd, our friend dr. marshall and street soldiers. we cannot do our work without the community. this neighborhood is amazing. it is the most of verse. this building and facility is so full potential. we work with a number of the residents and the community- b

and i'll give it three quarters of a bucket.l see you on the aisle. >> there we go. >> and there is sandhya patel. >> if you like weather, tomorrow you're going give me a full bucket for weather this, afternoon and this evening, i want to show you the view from our sutro camera. setting sun, clear outside z sun went down, at 6:11 meaning another cold night is coming. by afternoon, nice, mild to warm again tomorrow f you're doing traveling los angeles is 80 degrees, there is a nice-looking day. there is 55 degrees in eureka and sunny. and here in the bay area there is aprila, oakland mid 70s in antioch. 71 san jose. mild, sunny tomorrow, cooling off over the weekend. there is a chance of rain sunday. and better possibility heading into monday, then, periods of rain tuesday through thursday. and can you say winter is coming back? there is just a taste of winter. >> thank you very much. >> oakland zoo ben factor and men's warehouse founder cuts a ribbon to open the new giraffe barn. the giraffes feel at home walking through the tal

and i remember him sauntering up to the front and not giving us a lecture.ut engaging us in a conversation. speaking the truth, telling us that he [inaudible] to learn at this place that i have carried with me ever since, open up your heart and your minds to the words of professor derek bell. [cheers and applause] professor bell who died last fall. now analyze fox news host geraldo rivera. big deal? no big deal? what? >> i don't think it's a very significant deal. you went to harvard is it that big a deal when a black president of the law review hug as black law professor who is protesting the lack of diversity? i don't think it's a big deal. >> bill: no, but now that the harvard law guy is president, the associations always come into play this guy bell is a pretty radical guy. >> is he no jeremiah wright. i must say. he is radical guy. >> bill: what would be the difference between him and -- >> jeremiah wright said don't don't god bless america, god damn america. derek bell never said anything like that. he had some far out theories. he had this critical ra

they will give them training. we give them decent salaries, and we give them hope that they can actually progress and develop. and another one is the defense ministry. they can be part of the armed forces. and it's the same thing, you know. we treat them with respect. we give them decent salary, training, et cetera. and then those who right now we have 20,000 of them. and this is going to grow into probably 30,000, maybe even more. we have budgeted for 50 of them, 25 in each group. and then we have formed an association. we call it that would take those that are not interested neither in the police force nor in the armed forces and give them opportunities to -- for training, scholarships to go to universities outside the country, maybe inside, and/or do postgraduate studies, can go get their masters and ph.d and what have you. and there are many of them like that. or maybe if they are interested in starting a small company, we give them small and medium-sized loans so they can do that. and i think we're being succ