asked in the midst of all this back and forth what are we in for if you member our interview with james poulos the other week so where does all this really coming from those our guest tonight argues it might be because the real question bothering today's conservatives is what are men who are in a world where women can now earn their own living not be dependent on the other sex are these conservative men just struggling to find their own relevance grasping desperately whatever they can joining me to discuss this in our studio in new york is lynn pair more contributing editor at alter net lynn thanks for joining us tonight i guess first give me your breakdown your reasoning as to why you think that the real question of the bottom all of all of this is meant for. yeah i think that conservative men are really concerned that power is slipping away from them in the last fifty years the changes that have occurred in women's lives have been fundamental and they've altered the gender roles that had existed you know in some cases for thousands of years and these men are not going to give up easily and i

. ♪ >> all right joining us for our power pan sell james poulos for the "daily color." adele stan. great to have you here as well. >> great being here, cenk. >> rush limbaugh seems to drive all of these elections. so is he the read of the republican party? >> there's not a lot of ass kissing going on right now. rush has a very big microphone and it is big enough. so it's not surprising his remarks are making an impact especially because let's face it they are crude remarks. when even rick santorum says your comments are out of line probably you are not representing your party or the main constituency behind it. >> adele is it fair to hold the republicans responsible for rush's comments? >> i think it is fair. and this is why. they can't seem to rally to say you don't talk about women this way. they say it is inappropriate or whatever. i think rush is giving the crudest voice to the sentiment of the party that has been evident in this fight against birth control. >> when you look at this who is the party for women and who is the party against? >> when you look at the num

absurd outbreak of attempts to shame and violate women it just gets worse than this essay that james poulos wrote the georgetown government student actually asked a question that you know has really been out since the nineteenth century what is the utilitarian purpose of women and he concluded that it was to give birth to babies and he also suggested that women have a moral purpose to civilized men and that is a throwback to a very popular victorian argument that was popularized by english poet named coventry patton or called the angel in the house and women were idealized in. as wives and mothers and they were supposed to resonate their moral purity through the house and we've actually reverted back to a discussion that very much echoes those over centuries old arguments oh yeah we're all really well familiar with james because in the piece that he wrote here he was on the show the other week too and had a bit of an argument i guess you could say with him over it but you know how we are how far are you willing to take this assertion to that men are really struggling you know to maintain so