susan douglas, and author tim wise. april newsweek who has mad men on the cover. history, yes. i love history, we do a lot of history on nerd land, but nostalgia makes me so nervous. >> that's the worst thing about it. it's not really a knock on the show. it's a knock on our larger culture. we have a lot of folks dpriped about nostalgia. saying they want their country back. we know what that means. we have mike huckabee saying that the comment, he doesn't understand america the way we do. he says while the president was living in indonesia, we were going to boy scout and rotary club meeting. who is we? not folks on the south side of chicago. that's a very specific thing. and so the problem isn't the show, my question, i'm just curious is why are people drawn to these kinds of things in the first places. >> why the pleasure of that moment? >> i think it's because you can mi misbehave. you can drink as much as you want to, have sex without impunity, smoke. there aren you can do the things you want to do without having to