misconduct, does the government have any recourse to recover the funds that have been paid for theirtarians, for their attorneys fees? when they have engaged in intentional misconduct? you mentioned in your comments to senator hutchison that after the office of public responsibility report, that there may be sanctions that we will see, but is there recourse? are you pursuing any recourse? it seems to me in an instance like this, where it has been made clear that the intentional -- that the conduct was intentional, that it was substantial, and it was widespread, that we should not be defending and paying for the attorneys fees to -- to, again, allow these individuals to -- to conduct such acts and then to learn that they're still within the department of justice doesn't give me much confidence. >> well, i mean, certainly one of the things that i think happens is that because the justice department can't represent these people and they have their own views of what happened. they want to be able to explain with counsel, defend themselves. that is why the expenditure of money actually occurred.