and ursula from the bureau of parks laying out how to do it with laser specificity on these issues, but the problem is when you talk about it to a certain degree, you are talking and it which in the political environment which i don't know if i mentioned it earlier in the day, and last night, someone said, steve, while you havehav r designed an erudite conference, and one of the reasons is because we want to raise the level of inputs into that conversation and debate, but there is a sense that the smart, strategic investments somehow undermine real people out there trying to work the real jobs. and i -- i know it is wrong, but i do have family in oklahoma and texas and kansas, and not to knock oklahoma, and texas and kansas, but there are a lot of folks who don't get that kind off policy as being in their interest and they feel distant from it. >> it is very, very difficult in this period of time, because as a number of speakers have said, the way that people feel about the e kconomy, they feel about government. we are in a painful and slow process of recovery and for most americans a t

ursula burns as well. there is a lot of opportunity. just the roundtable, our practice is not to be, you know, only off the record with the president. our approach with all of our meetings are closed to the press. we don't do public meetings and we'll have a little press conference to release our taking action for america strategy, but after that, we think it is important that the ceos be in situations with policymakers and public officials to have a very direct and open conversation. nobody has to worry about it being on camera. >> can you tell us which ceos will be attending? some household names viewers may recognize? >> nearly 100 ceos will be present. many of them are very much household names. starting with jim mcnearney. andrew liveris. jamie dimond will be there. it goes across the entire economy. it is almost easier to say who won't be there. it is a stellar turnout. the president last was with the roundtable two years ago. he came in '09 and came in 2010. he did not have an appearance last year. this is the opportunity we have