which is the lesser evil, is it saving lives by waterboarding three people, or is it waterboarding -- is waterboarding a greater evil than that? that's a question that any politician who has to face lives with consequences of it for the rest of of his life, and it's a horrible one. >> well, i think i would take a slightly different view of that. um, there is -- we have reached this almost sort of bizarre situation in our society whereby we actually discuss whether or not we need to waterboard in order to obtain information through interrogation. we actually know how to interrogate people without waterboarding and to obtain accurate information as a consequence of that. that's been proven empirically and in social science research, etc. that's all out there. it's all documented. and i think interrogators generally would confirm that, frankly, they don't want to use that particular tool because, frankly, it can illicit false information far more often than it can accurate information. the individual waterboarded actually tells you exactly what you want to know because he wants the water

waterboarded. >> jimmy: he really did get it.> thank you. >> jimmy: pal, you were killing it. you were amazing in this movie, "natural selection." >> thank you. >> jimmy: it was at last years south by southwest. >> yeah. >> jimmy: and it just took the festival by storm. it started winning crazy awards. >> yeah. >> jimmy: and you actually won an award. congratulations. >> thank you. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: i'm so happy for you. >> thank you. >> jimmy: i'm so happy for you. >> thank you. >> jimmy: but here's what -- what's great about this is -- the story is that how you accepted your award. >> yes. well, i had moved -- moved. i didn't move. >> jimmy: no. >> they were still in south by southwest in austin, texas, which is great. and i had to go back for work, so i was in los angeles. and i started getting texts from robbie pickering, our director. and the producer was saying, "my god, we are sweeping these awards." and they said, "we think you might win a breakthrough performance award." so -- >> jimmy: that's exciting. >

of appeals of the united states that looked exactly at the time of conduct that was involved, waterboarding, described it very clearly, and described it -- i don't remember my count right now, but 10 or 11 times in the decision as torture. and the olc opinions never mention the case. they go on for pages, for dozens of pages. they never mention the case. what concerns me about that is that when the department went back to look at it, the investigation concluded with a memorandum by -- i think he is retired from the department now, but david margolis, the margolis memo, which said that the lawyers at the office of legal counsel weren't to be held to the standard that a regular ordinary ham and egg lawyer hauling the files under his arm into the district court is in terms of the standard acquired for candor to the tribunal. so, again, i'm speaking through, you, mr. schuelke, to the department. but that continues to leave a sour taste with me. it does not make sense to me that the departments at the office -- that the department lawyers at the office of legal counsel, which is probably the hig

conflict between georgia and south and said chair a few channels have earned more accolades for its waterboarding than al-jazeera that is until the channel that once was and with revolutionizing arab news coverage said it sides and revolutionizing the arab world so the right is clearly for anyone for their watches you have your eyes focused on the one. who removed the regime with all possible. and it's government the government of qatar. or the sponsors or friends of the. is calling to smuggle weapons into syria and call him to smuggle weapons that member of the united nations that is almost criminal i mean you don't smuggle weapons into a country and give it to people to shoot at government institutions that is totally unethical. well i'll just series probably the most prominent example of setting can you suggest that it's obviously not the only one over the past year arab journalists have been seen riding tanks and warming up crowds you know state media and the official media is that there's even the thought of such a big problem because it's can be predicted but media that call themselves inde

so how exactly are these foreign countries playing to waterboard a western economic model what's their driving range. that's right now well there's a lot going on here it's the fourth annual break summit leaders from brazil russia india china and south africa all just concluded their talks they also signed an agreement to give loans in their local currencies obviously this is a move to move away from the dollar and the euro there is a lot of talk here today about the traditional financial institutions like the i.m.f. the international monetary fund and the world bank which have traditionally been led by the last one of the things that talked the agenda today was. talking about a potential development bank between the brics countries that's something that's going to be further investigated and they'll discuss that again at the fifth annual break summit next year in south africa the russian president dmitri medvedev prime minister manmohan singh the south african leader jacob zuma all had very similar thoughts about the brics also showing their geo political influence on there against we

if dick cheney were elected president and wanted to train and incessantly waterboard every american who sent an e-mail making fun of these well known hunting mishaps. what i'd like to know is does the n.s.a. have the technological capacity to identify those cheney sure's based upon the content of their e-mails yes or no no. so general alexander goes on to explain that assuming those e-mails are in the united states the n.s.a. does not have the ability to do that in the u.s. the n.s.a. would have to go through the f.b.i. to get a warrant to fucking responsibility here or to retire but between the lines of i obviously this is a fake scenario that this congressman was was sort of making up for the sake of argument but. the denials and denials there at this hearing i would think was actually two interesting things about his denial first they've been denying especially that they've been doing this for years but what makes this really absurd is that they actually have secret definitions of a few words that make these denials very easy it's kind of funny to think that they have a top secret do

waterboarding every american who's. been sort of these well known mishaps. oh what i would like to know is does the sea have the technological capacity to. change their shoes or used to put two of their emails yes and no. i want a question and of itself may sound a little funny like alexander saying if the n.s.a. does not have the ability to do that within the united states that we believe them well joining me to discuss this if he even webster senior editor of raw story thanks so much for joining us tonight even and i guess before we talk about this hearing necessarily it was said let's go back to the original story the bamford row and you know what was your biggest takeaway some of the things that you found i guess most troubling about what they're planning on doing with this just gigantic massive n.s.a. complex that they're building well obviously to me what's most troubling is that we have to rely on but insiders speaking to intelligence reporters who spent their whole careers covering this. you want to find out what our government is doing. numerous law

dick cheney were elected president and wanted to detainee incessantly waterboard every american who sent an e-mail making fun of these well known hunting mishaps. what i'd like to know is does the n.s.a. have the technological capacity to identify those cheney she was based upon the content of their e-mails yes or no no. so as you say denial in general alexander goes on to explain that assuming those emails were sent within the united states that the n.s.a. does not have the ability to do that i don't know whether he's saying the legal ability or the physical or ability to capability that in the u.s. you know the n.s.a. he says would have to go through the f.b.i. . you know get a warrant and basically was just watching responsibility talk a little bit about you know i guess read between the lines for us here well i can't help but watch that clip and reminisce about it's an area not too long ago when george w. bush set up and said they were not collecting they were not wiretapping phones of american citizens and it wasn't too long after that that the n.s.a.'s weren't wiretapping program w

waterboard rides.e it's not going away. >> andrea: surrounded by a gravel track and shaded areas. perfect. give them shaded areasty. s and areas to hide in. >> bob: the guards think it's good idea because they want them something to do instead of being locked up all day long. they get the energy off. if you ask any guard, i would love to do it. i tried to call somebody down there. i bet the guards understand the importance of this. >> eric: these are terroris terrorists, bob. >> bob: they are not all terrorists. >> eric: these are terrorists. i would love to put them on military group. >> andrea: a good game of badminton will fix them. >> bob: not funny. if you have prisoners locked up 23 hours a day they get more violent. >> andrea: so will the left talk about what a terrible place gitmo is? getting playboy. >> bob: i have seen the prison. bush administration did a goo good, solid operation out of a crappy place. they recognize like any people in charge of the prisoners you can't keep people locked up

custody and taken to black sites afghanistan and later poland where he was waterboarded, threat withmock execution, and more than his family would be treated to the same treatment if he didn't tell his interrogators what they wanted to hear. after arriving at guantÁnamo in 2006, he retracted the confession about his leadership about the cole attack. the evidence now a kinston appears secondhand hearsay. inadmissible in federal court, by the way. another man, the convicted driver of osama bin laden, told an fbi agent he overheard a plan, while at an al qaeda safe house back in 2001. the degree of coercion to produce that information is anybody's guess. some of the responsibility rests with congress, determined to maintain an exploit the fear that allow the american public to turn it limelight on bush administration prime concerns in congress have managed to convince rational individuals like new york city's mayor, for instance, that trying and accused tears in federal court would be too dangerous, too costly, and too lenient. that was getting the record of successful federal terrorism

circuit court decision of the united states but looked at the type of conduct that was involved, waterboarding. described it very clearly, and described -- i don't remember the count right now but ten or 11 times in the decision as torture. in the opinion is never mentioned in the case. they go on for pages, dozens of pages into the never mention the case. what concerns me about that is when the department went back to look at it, the investigation concluded with a memorandum by a thing he's retired now but david margolis minow that says the lawyers said the council were not to be helped to the standard that a regular ordinary lawyer hauling the files under the district court is in terms of the standard required for candor to the tribunal. so again, speaking through you to the department. if that continues to leave a sour taste with me it doesn't make sense to me that the department lawyers of the office of legal counsel which is probably the highest and most talented part of the legal profession outside in government outside of the supreme court itself should not have to meet the standard of

fbi agents interviewed -- have we gathered a good information from the population without using waterboarding? >> yes. >> don't you agree the best way to interrogate someone is not to torture them but to use traditional military enforcement techniques? >> i had somewhat of a loaded question. [laughter] i will say -- >> we follow the rules of -- >> you don't torture people, do you? and you get good information. >> yes. >> what i would suggest to the committee is senator mikulskis question on sequestration if this is not a wake-up call for the, chris, what would be? you heard the fbi director has done a marvelous job in all these agents tell us if we do what we are planning to do we are going to devastate one of the front line agencies in the war on terror. ten years ago what was the fbi budget when it came to national security issues or the percentage of your budget? >> i would say one-fifth of the budget back in 2001 was national security, and i would say the principal percentage of that was addressed to espionage and counterintelligence position. >> before 9/11 what percentage of the budget?

appeals of the united states decision to look exactly at the type of conduct that was involved, waterboarding. they described it very clearly and described it, i don't remember right now by counts for 10 or 11 times that it was torture. and the olc opinion never mentioned the case. they go on for dozens of pages and they never mention the case. what concerns me about that is when the department went back to look at it, the investigation concluded with a memorandum by, think he retired from the department now, but david margolis, the margolis memo which said that the lawyers of the office of legal counsel were not to be held to the standard that a regular ordinary ham and egg lawyer under the district court is in terms of the standard required for candor to the tribunal. so again, speaking through you to the department, but that continues to leave it the department, the department lawyers by the office of legal counsel which is probably the highest and the most talented part of the legal profession outside, and government outside of the supreme court itself, should not have to be the standard

. >> i would gather good information over time for that population without using waterboarding?>> yes. >> allegedly the best way to interrogate someone, not to torture them, they use traditional military law enforcement techniques? >> well, that is somewhat of a loaded question. i will say -- we have followed -- we follow our rules. >> you don't torture people, do you? >> no, sir. >> and you get good information totally agree. what i would suggest to the committee that senator mikulski's questions about sequestration. if this is not a wake-up call for the congress, what would you? you just heard the fbi director and has done a marvelous job tell us that if we do what we are planning to do, we are going to devastate one of the frontline agencies in the war on terror. 10 years ago, what was the fbi's budget when it came to national security issues? what percentage of your budget? >> i would say one fifth of the budget back in 2001 was national security and i would say a principal percentage of that was espionage in the counterintelligence division. >> before 9/11, what percentage

no red cross seeker waterboarding, no abs. you can have this kind of country. we have so much to offer. this is a great country. instead of sharing, instead of reaching out, we are lashing out. and we are never, ever -- we've become the thing we hate. we are dropping bombs on crowded cities at night were old people and children are sleeping and we think we are going to get down the rest of our life. turning upside -- turn it reverse. imagine somebody coming in with an unmanned aerial vehicle. where is the valor here? you've got you got a man in a cape somewhere in suburban washington and nevada sits there with a joystick, looking at tv monitor. there they are. but we are killing children. and this is on obama's watch. we have to get rid of the droves. the drills will be banned. and sooner or later it will happen and i want my president to make the first call on it. poster riches in fairfax, virginia. republican caller. >> caller: thank you for taking my call. i've been thinking about this for a while. i spent 20 years in the marine corps and the business of sen

waterboarding, no gps. you can have this kind of country. we have so much to offer.this is a great country. and instead of sharing, instead of reaching out, we are lashing out. and we are never, ever -- we have become the thing we hate. we are dropping bombs on crowded cities at night, were old people and children are sleeping. and we think we are going to get on with the rest of our lives. turn it upside -- turn it reverse. imagine somebody coming in with an unmanned aerial vehicle. where's the dollar here? you've got a man in a cave somewhere in either suburban washington. i think we have in nevada, sits there with the joystick looking at the tv monitor. there they are. and we are killing children. and this is on obama's watch. we have to get rid of the drones. the drones will be banned. and sooner or later, it will happen and i want my president to make the first call on it. postcode which is in fairfax, virginia. republican collar, good morning. >> thank you so much for taking my call. i'm in taking about this for a while. i spent 20 years in memory call and the

if you buy elite gold prestige tickets for the first three rows, i'll give you complimentary waterboardingo much, mark. good luck with filling in. >> my pleasure. thanks, guy. >> thanks for not yawning, too. appreciate that. >>> coming up, from the runway to running from the law, why this swimsuit model was a fugitive. >>> plus game on. march madness in full swing, and yes, they're in. the national broadcaster who was stuck in marathon traffic, she got out of the car and ran. she's on the curvy couch in just a minute. copd makes it hard to breathe, so i wasn't playing much of a role in my own life, but with advair, i'm breathing better so now i can take the lead on a science adventure. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator, workintogether to help improve ur lung function all day. advair won't replace fast-acting inhalersor sudden symptoms and should not be used more than twice a day people with copd taking advair may have a higher chance of pneumonia a

peterson was much more threatening than waterboarding." we are confronting two risks.ity of a short-term european-style financial crisis. second is a longer-term growth crisis. critically needed investments in education cannot math, engineering, infrastructure, and so forth. these are not about the future. they are about the past. there is another downside. in addition to stagnating wages and a low growth economy, if we were to try to finance the current entitlement programs, your taxes would have to double. and there are all kinds of special interests you will find in this political system of ours. they vote, they write their congressman, they contribute financially, and they usually ask for more breaks, more benefits, and more tax breaks when we cannot afford what we have now. what we are critically lacking in this country is a new kind of special interest, a special interest of the general interest, and interest of the future, a special interest of the young and their parents. now -- [applause] a famous german theologian once said the ultimate test of a moral societ

conspire to kill americans at guantanamo, even though there's not been a sing many incidents of waterboarding or torture of any kind, remotely, at guantanamo, although when you -- they throw feesies or urine on our guards -- feces or urine on our guards, we won't take away an hour of their movie watching. still they get an apology from this white house. the accidental 20812 burning of these korans that are desecrated by the writing of detainees, yes, they got an apology. the families of american soldiers who were killed after president obama said he, quote, calm things down by apologizing to afghanistan, nope. didn't get apology. no apology there. our own soldiers, but, nope, no apology. death of two pakistani soldiers in pakistan and the injuries of four our pakistanis in 2010 when a plane, we are told, made a mistake. yep. pakistani, they get an apology, but americans don't, pakistanis do. the president's support for the ground zero mosque at 2010 white house dinner opposed by most americans, including 9/11 survivors. most americans didn't want a mosque at ground zero. the president said it

you can have a country who puts people in cages for up to six years, no red cross, secrets, waterboarding, no habeus. this is a great country. and instead of sharing, instead of reaching out, we are lashing out. and we are never ever -- we have become the thing we 8. we are dropping bombs on crowded cities at night where old people and children are sleeping, and we think we are going to get on with the rest of our lives. reverse that, imagine somebody coming in with an unmanned aerial vehicle -- where is the valor here? you have a man in a cage either in suburban washington, nevada, looking at a tv monitor -- and there they are -- and we are killing children. this is on obama's watch. we have to get rid of the drones. sooner or later it will happen, and i want my president to make the first call. host: republican caller from fairfax, virginia. caller: i have been thinking about this for awhile, and the business of us sending baltimore -- when i was in the marines, and on four different occasions i stepped through somebody boss door and told them their child was dead. i come from that back