he took over the group led by david kato. mugisha blames american evangelical pastors, including massachusetts-based scott lively for helping stoke the intolerance. >> what has caused these people to end up in this condition that god condemns that is hurting them and that we want to help them to overcome? >> reporter: videos posted on the internet show lively conducting seminars here decrying a global homosexual agenda, insisting that homosexuality is a learned behavior that can be unlearned and that he'd helped many people do so. lively denies he ever called for violence but mugisha says in a deeply religious country, visiting clerics wield strong influence over local clergy and policy makers >> you have political leaders saying we should never accept homosexuality; a political leader saying if the law is passed, i'll go and take a job in the prisons to hang the homosexuals myself. so if it is a political leader, a member of parliament saying that the how are people who believe, who voted for them, who listen to them how are