. >> host: joining us by phone is dennis ken any. he is a professor -- kenney. he is professor of criminal justice at the john jay college of criminal justice. mr. kenney, you have been listening to this conversation. what are your initial thoughts? >> guest: first of all, what she describes is completely accurate. and from a law enforcement perspective, i think that a good deal of the capability she describe inside some ways can be very helpful. my immediate reaction, however, is that the focus on limiting just law enforcement, i think, would be misplaced because the notion that you can sell that information -- that the carriers can sell that information to law enforcement agencies, they can sell it to private vendors as well. and i think right now that the usage of that data the is pretty unclear who can get it, who can use it and so forth. there's commercially-available apps now that you can get on your iphone that will enable you to track not just your phone, but other people's phones as well. >> host: and do you see, do you see where the aclu is coming from

reece, daniel, lori, jennifer, megan, trish, susan, dennis, sonny, cedric, caroline, patrick, janet, julius, betty, tracy, sharon, james, connie, ken, nick, christy, kaden, so you have one minute each. go-ahead. >> hello commissioners and superintendent. thank you to commissioner maufas. we are here to talk about the layoffs and tell you that they are unacceptable. we are not convinced that any layoffs are needed. to do what you did, especially while united educators of san francisco and the school district are in contract negotiations, is extra for free and support. -- extra reprehensible. [applause] it is bad enough there are layoffs at all, but you have made it worse by skipping 14 schools. this is a major slap in the face to 14 teachers, those inside the superintendent zone and those outside. it is a despicable way of trying to pit teacher against teacher, students against student. we care about all of our students in all of our schools. as the current ranking officer of uesf, i'm going to exercise my right to speak until i am done. we care about all of our students. >> [crowd chanting] mic check! >> this on just, anti-union ac

dennis ] dollar for dollar, nobody protects you from mayhem like allstate. with odor free aspercreme. powerful medicine relieves pain fast, with no odor. so all you notice is relief. aspercreme. before the break i asked economist kenf to stick around because he was mentioned in a "wall street journal" op-ed this week that makes that claim. it was written by the former economic adviser to president george w. bush. christine romans rejoins us as well. she had a chance to talk to him this week. christine. >> we hear again and again from obama administration stopped the economy from going into the depression. he argues president obama's policies, some of them, that are making this, in his words, the worst recovery in history. >> this hardly kept us from the great depression. what it does, even at best softened the blow. the biggest problem to my mind is what we've done by engaging in those policies is created a situation where we have very serious long-term debt issues right now. to my mind those are the most important impediments to economic growth as we look to the future. >> okay. let's ask ken rogoff. is this the worst recovery ever, ken? >> well, it's a matter of semantics, but the great depression is worse. it's