. >> and so, frank newport, these foe kucus groups play an import role in this process. >> they do. i've moderated, like peter hart, a lot of focus groups, primarily for business and industry myself, so, i'm well acquainted with them. they have their place, but it is complicated to really discuss them. as you saw there, they are designed to elicit responses in more depth than you would get from just asking survey questions. now, what peopter hart there wa doing top of mind reaction. that isn't a bad idea. now, notice, that was a republican group. and we all know intuition and quick reactions are important, because a lot of what we do is not guided byrationalbrain. he was saying top of mind to republican voters. even if he had been commissioned by obama, it was good. that at least gave him a starting point, saying, president obama, is the way that some people who are republicans tend to think of you, this is what comes out. now, typically, how that would be used is -- i heard the world "weak" come out. you would take that, to see what degree they played or didn't play. the way we use