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king said if you're the enemy has a conscience follow gondi, and if he has no conscience, followed by an offer. even dr. king understood there was a time when force is necessary. host: kathy, an independent in oregon. caller: i was calling about mitt romney, but you brought in conscience. i found this chiseled on a building in chicago which says give me liberty to argue freely according to my conscience above all other liberties. that is by john milton. i thought that was extremely important. guest: if you're asking me to disagree with john milton, you will wait a long time. he is one the greatest writers in the english language, and it tremendous christian. host: joseph wants to challenge you on twitter. guest: first of all, i believe in absolute separation of church and state, but not the separation of moral values, even if they are religious life -- religiously informed. thomas jefferson wrote his famous letter to the baptist ministers of them very, connecticut, who were being persecuted, and he said there should be a lot of separation between the church of the state. that letter w