>> yes. >> miss halbrooks? >> yes, i think documenting the decision-making would be fine. >> i don't know, and i'm not saying that we would change the legislation at this juncture as it related to that. but there clearly have been bad actors where there has not even been a ripple. and it seems to me that a criminal indictment of a contractor should be an event that requires some folks in that agency to take a hard look, do some scrubbing, and figure out what the problem is, and if the problem is an isolated bad employee, that that be documented thoroughly with some kind of formalized process. do you envision you all being engaged in that process? would it make sense to have a justification for nonsuspension or debarment in light of criminal or civil fraud, that that be forwarded to the inspectors general? >> i would want some time to consider that option. in a little more detail. but it would definitely sort of change the culture of the suspension and debarment programs which typically aren't about punishment.