>> jerry goffin, charlie larky, rick evers which is the one you'll talk about every now and then andn romantic? >> yes. on your show you always say, have you ever been properly in love? every time. >> in your case it would be, how many dozen times have you been properly in love? did you marry every man you were properly in love with? >> no. the last two i didn't. >> if i could have trapped you on a dessert island with one man in your life you had a relationship with, who would it be? >> i don't know. i'm not with anybody now. that's kind of who i would be with is me. >> rick evers, he abused you and you talk very openly and directly about that in here. but you also make the point which i think many women say to themselves, if i ever got into that kind of abusive relationship i would be out, and you didn't. and you're very honest about that. tell me about the conflict that happens when you're strong about that and then it happens to you. >> the line is, i would never be with someone like that until i was. here's the more shocking point, i suppose. to me, it was shocking after the fact

. >> first of all, i want to say thank you and second of all, title by jerry wexler and lyrics by gerry goffin you sang that song and you look back at yourself there, knowing now what happened to your life, what do you feel? >> i feel, first of all, i'm younger than all my daughters are now. and i was so young and i just feel good and then, of course, when charlie came on the screen, i was like, it's so hard. charlie and i are still friends. we still have a deep, abiding love for each other. we share children and grandchildren and i refer to that in the book as the unconventional success story, even though we're not still together in the conventional sense. >> you've been married four times now? >> yes. >> quite searing stuff in here about your marriage to rick -- >> there are two ricks. >> rick evers. >> this was your second husband? third husband? >> gerry goffin, charlie larkey, rick evers which is the one you'll talk about every now and then and rick sorensen. >> are you an romantic? >> yes. on your show you always say, have you ever been properly in love? every time. >> in your case it wo