i am cheryl casone and welcome to cashin' n wayne, and johnathon and tracey and john and joining us this week democratic consultant julian epistein. johnathon i am curious what you think here. the epa attack why gas prices are high now and probably going to go up. >> that's the green movement goal to raise gas prices and make it harder for man to use the earth to his benefit. their goal is to hurt mankind. they put the bans on drilling and exploration and man dates on algae and make it harder for exxon to get permits and a crucfication as he put it. it is toward american companies and it is a shame. >> john, we got earning from exxon and they talked about drilling. maybe the reason? >> it is part of it. main reason gas prices are high china went from 4 to nine. and we are tuck at 86 million barrels total capacity in the world now. as far as the u.s. it hurse significantly. oil production is down and the government said it up. but the energy information by the u.s. government said it is down. one of the reasons because of 200,000 jobs waiting on fraking legislation in ohio. make a ruling

cashin in. our crew. wayne, and johnathon and tracey and john, and also joining us democratic consultant julian epistein. do you think entitlements are saving or killing the american dream. >> i am sick of it people are sitting around waiting for the next check. from fiscal year 2011 and 8. we spent 75 percent more on unemployment checks that go out. what does that tell you? more and more people are on the government dole. more and more people waiting for their loan to be remodified. stop. all of us sitting at this table here and johnathon and julian, we doesn't get hand outs and we made it >> wayne, entitlements are helping the people . does that make sense anymore for this nation . >> the fact of the matter it has grown enormously. it has grown over 300 percent and since 2009 43 percent. and you asked about the food stamp program and the abuse of the program grows and absolutely with it. and hand in glove. and the federal government can't do anything right and everybody abuses the program and oh, we have to admit other of people who abuse the program because it is shoddy to start with. but there is som

we did descend from this guy, john cashin, but inconveniently he was a slave owner. he a slave owner, the father of my great-grandfather -- >> hershel father. >> hershel's father. but that guy's father was also named john was one of the more prominent slaveowners in augusta. so here i have to contend with not only did i see -- not only did i descend from slavery, but from considerable wealth born of slavery, and i could tie my family's history of relative advantage, you know, for generations of educated people. my great-grandfather had a classical education in philadelphia, and became a lawyer. i could tie that to wealth in slavery which was new. i reconciled myself to that history by what my grandfather, great-grandfather chose to do with it. he chose to go back to the south, which he didn't have to, and he chose to work for the uplift in people of color. he chose to identify with people of color when, in fact, several of his siblings were pale enough to pass, and they did pass. so he was a bit of an agitator as well. that was one thing i discovered. >> professor cas