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it's jonah! >> reporter: they think what they're seeing could change our views of early christianity. >> that is a symbol of christian resurrection. >> reporter: i met up with james tabor at the dead sea scrolls exhibit in new york city. he showed me a replica of the artwork they saw on their latest treasure. >> what we're understanding, is the jonah image, the tale, the body of the fish and this funny human stick figure coming out with the sea weed wrapped around his head -- >> reporter: for many christians, the story of jonah and the whale has come to symbolize the resurrection of jesus. but if it's in fact the case, this is the earliest christian symbol of resurrection ever found. >> it would be the earliest symbol, you're looking at it right now. >> reporter: or maybe you're not. many scholars don't see that as well. >> when is a fish not a fish? the answer i provide to that is, when it has handles. >> reporter: mark of duke university says there are other far more likely explanations of what

i didn't know what was going to happen. >> by the time jonah and paul get into the water, the victimwhere to be found. both trained lifeguards, jonah and paul frantically searched the murky water, knowing they did have much time. >> we both had our heads above water and looking around and we couldn't see him. we knew he was under. we looked at each other and just went under and we both swam straight down to see if we could run into something. >> but the man is nowhere in sight. they dive down again, and this time paul doesn't come up alone. jonah rushes to help. >> when we got to the surface, paul had his arm around james and was holding his head above the water. james was completely limp, ashen gray. i didn't know if he was a corpse, really, at that point. >> james q. isn't breathing, and joe nay knows he needs to get him out of water fast, but hoisting him to solid ground becomes an impossible task. >> it was a fool's errand. he was too heavy and the rope was too thin. and regardless of the strength of the guys up on shore, it wasn't working. >> just then, jonah realizes that some

. >> what we're understanding, is the jonah image, the tale, the body of the fish and this funny humanck figure coming out with the seaweed wroopd around its head -- >> reporter: for many christians, the story of jonah and the whale has come to symbolize the resurrection of jesus. >> if that's the case, this is the earliest christian symbol of resurrection ever found. >> you're looking at it right here. >> or maybe you're not. many scholars don't see that as well. >> when is a fish not a fish? the answer is when it has handles. >> reporter: mark says there are other far more likely explanations of what that image is. it's a thesel, a vase, that looks like many of the ones that you'll find in this period in the early roman period. >> wow. >> reporter: good acre says there could be the power of suggestion. take a look. do you see a vase, or do you see the fish? then there's this. >> whoa, stop. that's an inscription. >> reporter: he and his colleagues also believe that these greek letters found a few feet away refer to resurrection. >> from the dead. >> whether they were saying he oz or

jonah lehrer. he also work how we decide. >> rose: the last 50 years of stunning advances in brain science have captured the public's imagination as we gain more insight into our mind's mysteries, important questions rise with potentially game changing answers. michael gazzaniga is one of the founding fathers of cognitive neuroscience. his life work is devoted to understanding how the brain works. he's director of the stage center for the study of the mind at the university of california santa barbara, a graduate student of the 1960's he devised experiences demonstrating the division of labor between the left and right side of the brain. his latest book exploartz the implications of neuroscience for society and the legal system, in particular. it is called who's in charge, free will and the science of the brain. i am very pleased to have him here at this table. welcome. >> thank you. >> rose: tell me, what happened in the taxi ride when you coined the term cognitive neuroscience. >> it's all starte

joining me is jonah perety, the founder and c.e.o. of buzz feed. the web site provides a mix of entertainment, news reporting, and most notably content that is shareable. he is also one of the founders of the huffingtonpost. the "new york times" described him as a viral marketing hot dog. i am pleased to have jonah perety at this table. >> thanks for having me. >> rose: what did david carr mean? >> he meant i spend a lot of time thinking about why things spread, how ideas spread, and sometimes it applies to marketing, but more broadly, it applies to how ideas spread, why things are shared, why some things that seem awesome don't go anywhere, and other things that seem kind of silly spread everywhere. >> rose: that's exactly what he meant. what is it you know that none of the rest of us know? >> for 10 years i've been thinking about why things spread, and i still am pretty humble about answering the-- that question of why-- of why they spread. even if you're good at it, your batting average is going to be low. most things don't go viral. most things

tonight we continue our brain watch series with jonah lehrer, his book is called major how creativity -- image how creativity works. >> if we relax in the shower or on the job or driving a car that we're finally able to turn the spotlight of attention inwards and that's when we hear the quiet voice coming to the back of our head giving us the answer. maybe the voice has been there for hours or days or weeks we just haven't taken a moment to listen. that's why relaxation is so important. the larger lesson gets backer to the wonderful line of einstein that creativity is the residue of wasted time. a moment of insight you have to make time to makwaste time to m. it will arrive after you start searching for it. >> rose: we'll continue with michael gazzaniga, has book who is in charge, free will and the science of the brain. >> free will is an illusion. free will is just a miscast problem in my opinion and what i try to do in the book is not just assert that but to tell the story about how the brain is built. what we know comes from the factory and the brain. how it's organized in terms of

jonah goldberg, at large editor of national interview online. jeff selnig.carlson from the dailycaller.com. jonah, some people look at that and raise an eyebrow or two and thought it was aggressive for president in the rose garden. >> yeah. two ways to score it. on the merits and the politics. do the merits quickly. it's nonsense. the idea that somehow the supreme court can't renew the constitutionality of a law because it was passed by not a large majority, but forget it. no law is passed by minority. so it's a red harring to begin with. the supreme court overturned the federal statute on average once every 16 months from ma marbury v. madison. somehow if it overturned this would be unprecedented is bizarre. as a constitutional scholar as everyone calls him the analysis was disingenuous. on politics, different issue. on the politics it might make sense to attack the supreme court. it might the smart way to play it. he is working the reps in a certain -- working the refs to a certain way. to a certain extent. as a matter of honest public policy discussion, i

joining me from bangkok is a jonah fisher. interesting that the visits come up now. >> this is a hugely symbolic moment. for more than two decades, her refusal to leave really symbolizes a distress the that she had for the military regime, the military general. it also came to symbolize the huge personal sacrifices she was willing to make in her struggle for democracy. her husband, a british academic in 1999, she refused an offer from the generals to be with him at the time that he died, fearing she would not be allowed back in. this is a hugely symbolic moment, a sign of the growing confidence of what she has in the reform process and of the confidence she has in the military-backed government that she is doing without a military bases -- on a regular basis. >> anything you see about her plight is in norway? >> norway is the obvious first choice for her. in 1991, she was awarded the nobel peace prize. her son went to accept it and .earsr place she stood in the u.k., in oxford. david cameron extended the invitation for her to

>> this is jonah. >> h >> reporter: how do you have time for the phone calls?i will get up in the middle of the night. i have bills i have to pay. and this is an idealistic job. i feel guilty because people are actually spending money to speak to me and i'm not a star. i'm just a mom. >> reporter: she's got her hands full. figure she's cleared 5,000 bucks in six weeks from dial a star. that may be how she paid for the fancy stylist who recently came to her home and then told her story to tmz, saying she's living in squalor and yet still paid $520 for a hair cut. >> i think maybe my kids were set up because i know i'm a good mom. >> reporter: child protective services has cleared her. exposure has certainly not hurt business. >> still feel guilty they are paying, but it's a wonderful job. >> reporter: and lots of others may profit, too, from this. the stylist, to the tabloids. and, of course, the creator of dial a star. it's like phone sex without the sex. >> right. >> reporter: how many people are using this? >> so far, we have 45 celebrities. not just d-list c

. >> reporter: the popular '80s tv show became a spoof starring jonah hill. it's made more than $70 million. the latest in a string of hollywood throwbacks. >> you take my hand. >> that would leave you with one. >> reporter: a new version of arthur, to the return of arnold. making good on his promise in the "the terminator." stars we haven't seen on the big screen in a while are back. at 64, arnold schwarzenegger is making on three action films and a remake of "twins." with danny devito. billy crystal is set to play a funny grandpa later this year. and chevy chase may be getting ready for another disaster of a vacation. >> is there some kind of weird retro thing going on this weekend? >> reporter: well, yes, actually, not just in "hot tub time machine." though not everyone is thrilled. >> some of the stuff they're going back and getting, you go, that wasn't that good the first time, you know. >> reporter: but movie makers hope that reaching back to the '80s will lift sagging ticket sales. the industry projects about 150 million fewer tickets will be sold this

. >> reporter: the popular '80s tv show became a spoof starring jonah hill.ade more than $70 million. the latest in a string of hollywood throwbacks. >> you take my hand -- >> that would leave you with one. >> reporter: but a new version arthur and a return of arnold. making good on his promise in the terminator. stars we haven't seen are back. at 64, arnold schwarzenegger is working on three action films and a remake of "twins." billy crystal, fresh off hosting the oscars, is set to play a grandpa later this year. and chevy chase may be getting ready for another disaster of a vacation. >> is there some kind of weird retro thing going on this weekend? >> reporter: yes, but not just in hot tub time machine. >> some of the stuff they're getting, that wasn't that good the first time sh you know? >> reporter: but movie makers hope reaching back to the '80s will lift sagging ticket sales. the industry reports that fewer tickets will be sold this year than just three years ago. with fewer people going to the movies, hollywood is struggle, so tinsel town has decided

jonah, what are you going to be watching for tonight? >> well, i'm also here at the front lines of his campaign in washington, d.c. where the atmosphere is electric. i'm just kidding. rick santorum isn't even on the ballot. jon: romney is only one they can vote for there in d.c., right? >> all eight republicans that live the in the district are going for romney. look it, it is an important night but it's, the wisconsin primary is important but not necessarily in ways that rick santorum wants it to be. if he loses which it looks like he will, it solidifies this narrative that he is sort of going nowhere and, what santorum really needs to do is have this huge groundswell of rural voters in the northern part of the wisconsin to go to the polls to compensate for romney's advantages in the more populated parts, in the southern parts. just doesn't look like it is going to happen. >> 2/3 of the voters in the state are basically in the milwaukee green bay area, right? >> that's right. they're in the southern urban and suburban districts down the

one is they're claiming to have found jonah's great fish. but it's not.in dozens of vessels. but that didn't stop them from photo shopping this image, turning it on its side and then distributing it to the public so that it looks more like a fish. number two, there are no fish in the margins. there's geometry all around this vessel. there's squares, xs, zigzag triangles and circles. what they did is took digital ink and got the same color as the area and extended the circle so that it crosses the back and forms the tail of like a little jesus fish like on the back of a car, so they put that on a museum replica. number three, there's no cross. just parallel inscripted lines. the inscription doesn't say what it has. only the people working for simkai says it has the name of god in greek. the funniest one of all, i use the word funny, it's the nicest word i can find. the base of the vessel, a semicircular base of the vessel. they claim was the, i kid you not, the seaweed wrapped head of a -- that they've already abandoned it and just this morning, released a

money he is a political activist and author of the one who a study of jewish identity politics are i jonah cross-talk rosen of i that means you can jump in anytime you want omar if i can go to you first some israeli think tanks think the b.d.s. is more dangerous to israel then an armed palestinian uprising but at the same time the same time we have met people like mr norman finkelstein they calls the movement a cult and chomsky calls it the posse rises to high heavens what is it is the movement powerful is it dangerous is it relevant. it is a powerful and relevant move and there's no question about that i mean essentially the b.d.s. movement is borne out of the failure of the diplomatic process to make any progress on achieving a peaceful solution to the israeli palestinian conflict we've had a couple of decades of it going on so far and nobody has seemed to have been able to pressure israel to respect palestinian rights and the occupation and it's going to require something significant some major shift in the balance of power to make future negotiations more possibly productive now of cou

the film stars ben stiller, vince vaughn, and jonah hill. the problem isn't actually the story.medy about a neighborhood watch uncovering and trying to prevent an alien invasion. the problem is with the marketing campaign especially the scene that was released of jonah hill pretending to shoot people out of the car window. you see the problem right there. this trailer has been pulled from theaters. you can still find it online though and 20th century fox, the studio behind the film, said this video was part of an early marketing film. they did release a statement to cnn, i want to read to you what they told us. we are very sensitive to the trayvon martin case, but our film is a broad alien invasion comedy and bears absolutely no relation to the tragic events in florida. these initial marketing materials were released before this incident ever came to light. above all else our thoughts go out to the families touched by this terrible event. i am sure the studio never imagined their film about aliens would ever get caught up in a controversial current events story like this. >> it'

jonah goldberg tweeted he wants to bring his sign for his book in as well. >> the other problem, majorredible cost of healthcare is the absence of tort reform. we have insane system where anybody's practice as i had knows how much is wasted on defensive medicine. tests and referrals and admissions. which are done entirely for no other reason than to prevent a lawsuit. it amounts to quarter of a bill. that is half a trillion dollars wasted a year. there is only one democrat honest enough to explain why there is not a word about it in the monstrous 2,000-page bill. he said the bill and democrats have enough enemies we didn't want to make enemies of the trial lawyers who are a big supporter of the democrats. to have a huge overhaul of the sixth of the american economy and leave the fundamental cost of the increase in spending on it is scandal. >> bret: one wor answer. big deal or not? healthcare and the general election. >> major issue after jobs. >> not a big deal. >> yes, a big deal. >> bret: that is it for the panel. john, thank you for coming on. stay tuned to find one guest that is r

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