all this begin and then also to sort of develop a kind of a provision for how to order ciety re rationay,eacefully and of course confucius and taoism have radically different solutions. out of this original concept of sensing the oneness of human beings with each other and with nature the confucians came out in believing we need a government, we need an ordering of society, we need a benevolent but vertical set of relationships. whereas the taoists sort of emerged from this experience said, "that's part of the problem, in fact." human beings are trying to fix it and nature doesn't get fixed. you let nature be and if we're a part of nature, in a sense they became anarchists and the logical conclusion from the taoists is to go off into the woods and be by themselves. but in a sense nothing is - it's not a sort of like a confession where i'm a confucianist and i'm a taoists. there's a saying that, in china you were a confucian hat and a taoist robe and you have buddhist robe and a taoist sandals. so that people clothed themselves in this set of religions and you call a dynamic system of rel