anybody trying to guess what the public wants, even barnum didn't know. his stuff is sailing.hat is always what i say. i say, "do you like it? " i don't want to hear what mr. and mrs. america like. they aren't telling the truth. do you like this sexy poster? >>no. aat if i brought it in frame? focus groups are touchy. it takes a lot of bravery to bring in cash. i know this star worked. i have no stars in there. nobody was known to the public. that spirt ait at amc, i feel loyalty to them. they were like, we had a meeting about the show. we said, "do you like it?" "i like it. i watch tv and like to watch amc." >> i am glad we came full circle. when this kicked up -- we close on this. i said, the show is over if matt isn't there. you write all the stuff. what happens if you get pnuemonia? >> it is bad. i am -- a lot of tv shows are like that. that's just the risk you take. what happens when kobe's sick? tavis: it isn't happening now. kobe isn't sick. >> but you're a very important person. tavis: what happens if the ideas stop? >> i can't do it myself completely. talented people

. >> they just have a group of people probably from barnum and pailly's circus -- bailey's circus. >> reporter: he knows there are parts of the system older than he is but another increws, he -- increase, he said is way too much. this with take his water bill over $200 every two months. >> i think the city council should go back and evaluate what needs to be done and then come up with a fair and equitable solution to the water bill for each taxpayer and citizen, the same with property taxes. >> reporter: the city says it needs this bus it cost last lot to -- because this costs a lot to bring water into your home. the city has to fix hundreds of water main breaks each year and uncle sam said they need to bring it up to date. >> so we're going to be increasing the amount of new mains that we install. we're going to be increasing the projects in order to keep the system running and to keep the system growing because we are in a growing metropolitan area. we have to do this. we're keeping it at 9% for the simple reason that we understand people's budgets. we need to do more. >> if you wan

barnum said there is a sucker born every moment and he woefully under estimated the rate. >> you boughthem so i'll leave it at that. >> you should see me. that's fantastic. >> i'm sure. all right. bill, nice to see you. bill santiago. >> nice to see you. bye-bye. >> all right. >>> well thanks for starting your morning with us. we have much more ahead on cnn saturday morning which continues right after this. you know, those farmers, those foragers, those fishermen.... for me, it's really about building this extraordinary community. american express is passionate about the same thing. they're one of those partners that i would really rely on whether it's finding new customers, or, a new location for my next restaurant. when we all come together, my restaurants, my partners, and the community amazing things happen. to me, that's the membership effect.

>> he's in the spotlight as the first african-american ringmaster at ringling brothers and barnum & baileys i always tell people about circus life and especially here at the greatest show on earth is you don't play a ringmaster. you don't play a trapeze artist, you don't play a daredevil. you are these things and everything you do in your personal life centers around what you're going to do later that night or three times on saturday. >> it was the chance of a lifetime that suddenly appeared just after he graduated college. >> this opportunity to be the ringmaster of the greatest show on effort was prefrnsented to m. it was history. i thought this is a great pickup line. ringmaster. >> i think i fell in love as soon as i saw him. it's not only the person, it's when he's on stage as a ringmaster he takes care of the arena. he's so charismatic. yeah, he's amazing. but he's a great person too. >> jonathan's brazilian-born wife is a dancer and line captain with the show and they have two children and find the circus to be a wonderful and supportive home. >> the greatest thing about the greates

and barnum and bailey, european circuses, as well as the big apple circus, and then some of our teachers who have grown up through the program that we've trained. >> and expert help is definitely in order. for example, george makes the diabolo look easy. >> and once you have that, you can do all kinds of tricks with it -- plenty of stunts. things like that, or step over it. and spin it under your leg. you can catch it out of the air, like this. things like that any many other fun things. you want to try it? >> i do want to try. >> okay. now, you right-handed? >> i am. >> so, you roll it towards your left shoulder and pick it up. roll it to your left and pick it up, and then up and down with the left -- the right hand. gently, gently. that's it! that's it. you got a beautiful spin right there. tightrope, and let it in. and let it in. yes, yes! good job. that's it. >> next, i tried my hand -- i mean foot -- at walking on stilts. if at first you don't succeed... i was more at home on the trampoline. since i have one in my backyard, flipping in the air comes naturally. i get to try aerial fa

whether you like his of move two zero up in the playoff series against denver kobe bryants and andre barnum combining for sixty five points in california the two thousand and nine until two thousand and ten champions saying that nineteen point lead to the window in the third quarter to regain that composure to close out a full point when she called i mean wallace saying that was playoff days come true after losing writing m.v.p. think their recruits for the season with a knee injury a huge third quarter run helping underdogs philadelphia tie the series at one a pace while boston for bought from eleven down in the second hall to even the series with atlanta pulled the start of the show. we knew paul had to get going early we did i mean i was you could see our first seven boys that they call it was paul pierce left right center and you know and obviously it's a make misleading the ball had to go in. i thought after that you know we don't want to lose but i just thought we had a shot and once we got off to a good start. boxing now a running w b r middleweight champion russia's dmitri peril has

barnum for his hippodrome theater and can the equestrian society of new york took it over for their upscale horse show. the horses may have been upscale and the equestrians may have been upscale but a rusty old train shed is not upscale. they decided in the late 1880s to demolish that and hired mccumbee and white to do this multi-entertainment complex and the madison avenue end of it had several theaters including a 1,500 seat music hall the size of today's town hall and a 1200 seat theater for shows and plays and that's the equivalent of a large broadway theater today, new york's largest restaurant and some people say it had a billiards room which would be very typical of those days, that was a very upscale indoor sport and had a beautiful arcade at madison, 26th and 27th so when you alighted from your carriage, taxi, whatever it was, you were sheltered from the wind, the rain, the sun, whatever was going on out there. the top of that multi-entertainment complex behind the colonnades and an outdoor roof garden theater where during the warmer months they could have the midnight frolics and

. >> pt barnum lives. but guess what?rday, i dumped them. >> it would have been fine -- >> bill: i dumped them. i said take a loss get the hell out. >> sometimes you get the bear and sometimes the bear gets you. in this case you got swallowed whole. >> bill: we'll see about that. it serves me right by the way. >> i hate to minimize this but it was only 200 shares right? it is not like it was two million. >> bill: still a good chunk of change. let's talk about john boehner. you've written a powerful piece -- >> thank you. >> bill: for roll call. john boehner who once again says we thought we resolved this debt ceiling so it wouldn't come up again until 2013, would not come up in the election year but john boehner brought it back and saying right now we're never going to raise -- unless we with get corresponding cuts, right? debt ceiling as a political football. >> all right. let me use the word that i used in the headline. this is as irresponsible behavior from a speaker of the united states house of representatives you co

barnum house. my nephew and i went out and knocked on the door. we are from canada. we heard there was this painting done in the garden. perhaps we could come in. in a very an english like with a set sure. and then got to know the whole village and started an art festival there two years ago, the broadway art festival. you had this use the famous art quality in 1885. henry james, john singer sargent. if this was america it you would have an art festival. now they do. i put on the plate based on the story of carnation leros. the first day i found out when i started to get really interested was that the garden it was painted and was found by this man, frances davis miller. my first love was, oh, no. i knew that frank miller had died on the titanic. so i felt like out pacino and got the other three. i get pulled beckoned. no escaping the titanic for me. and so i, of course, went to the smithsonian archives and other places that have papers and discovered that he lived this extraordinarily interesting life in fact, i sometimes think of him as the forest gump of the gilde

barnums and everything else of china, and it is so different that every place you go there's a surprisehina does x, because some guy in beijing might say, red china is going to do x and some gip 1,000 miles away said, to hell with you. i have my own scheme. i'm going to build an air park. i saw a guy build a palace of versailles to live in, for scale, just because he wanted to. >> oh, my gosh. >> so it's a big life-like place that is worth taking an interest in. >> the book is "china airborne" james fallows, thank you so much. come back soon. >> my pleasure, thanks. >>> still ahead, speaking of air travel, will new airline fees mean families looking to fly together won't be able to sit together? more "morning joe"'s in just a moment. well hello, welcome to hotels.com. summer road trip, huh? yep uhuh let's find you a room. at hotels.com, you'll always find the perfect hotel. because we only do hotels. wow. i like that. nice! no. laugh...awe hmm nice huh ooh, yeah book it! oh boy call me... this summer, we're finding you the perfect place - plus giving you up to $100 at hotels.com [ man ]