and then we have the master distiller, dave pickerell, who is here who is our main consultant for doing whiskey and these brandies. dave used to be the master distiller at maker's mark. he's now independent. and many over the last 25 years, many people are familiar with how micro brew beer really took off. well, there's a movement now in craft distilling going on in the country. and so dave is involved in a number of entrepreneurial projects because he's a chemical engineer designing distillery for people. so he brought a couple of friends here who are distillers. one runs catoctin distillery. this is in this area. and another young man from the hudson river valley of new york that is just beginning the process of building his distillery. they're here to learn with dave and get a taste of the history of distilling as well as help us. >> i encourage people to name their stills all the time. this one is pam. and this one is sarah. and that's maggie. and this is sandra, and that's elizabeth. so it's please send me spirit, elizabeth. that's the pneumonic. today we're having a lot of fun doi