i thought that the michael gove speech to the press gallery was part of the political strategy. i don't think that david cameron particularly wants to have to deal with this, i don't think he wanted to set up the inquiry. he had to do it in the end. i think it would be very difficult for him not to go along with whatever recommendations or at least a very large part of the recommendations the inquiry pro du prodo you spro i hope there is something produced by what you laid out earlier, but i doubt they will do anything vis-a-vis the next election. so i would think there is some status for change, but i wouldn't know the state of it. i think there's quite a big appetite for the people who are no longer there. >> the general topic of pro forma the press, see if this recalls your recollection. we first discussed how we could remedy the failed relationship between the media and politics in 2002, and we even considered putting the pcc on a statutory basis and creating a rite of pli that exists in other countries. do you remember that? >> i do. >> he is referring to the discussions yo

against israeli challenger bodies gelfand the twelve much series starts in moscow on friday as michael govereports now it's been a whole twenty seven years since moscow last played host to such a high caliber chess event it's also the first time that it's being held in one of the world's largest art museums that set it off gallery the organizers hope that with it they will raise test his awareness but also give people a chance to see some of russia's wonderful arts it's in the original twist on an otherwise already classic game what's more it's also being held in a country that's heralded many chess champions including the two famous k.'s and a totally karpov and getting caspar off but this is two eyes that will compete in israel's boris gelfand versus india's vishwanathan anand they know each other well having played each other many times before. but many of raise the question of whether a man feels intimidated playing a player older than himself in a match of such importance i mean you go to a minor your it's not really you was being something like that. i would say it's just interesting

but i think my worry in relation to michael gove and some of the political leaders just want th

but i think my worry in relation to michael gove and some of the political leaders just want this to go away. >> and then mr. campbell, will you identify what you've described as potential flaws in lord hunt's proposals? first of those you've already identified paragraph iragraph 4 paper is under no obligation to -- lack of detail about how the propose the contact will work in practice and sanctions and accountability. the fear that the industry would to any event manage to -- once aga general agreement was reached and followed by negotiations with the desmond problem. finally you refer to aspects of the new system which are in your opinion in common with the cold. >> yes. >> are there any points you wish to develop or amplify -- >> i think the funding is difficult because press boff is it's back to their system and they pay for. so how would you fund this, perhaps it does have to be a claim upon the public first. i think the editor's code has always been a major flaw. the fact we're servinging people who decide what the editor's code is is just so obviously a flaw in the whole syste

but i think my worry in relation to michael gove and some of the political leaders just want this to go away. >> and then mr. campbell, will you identify what you've described as potential flaws in lord hunt's proposals? first of those you've already identified paragraph iragraph 4 paper is under no obligation to -- lack of detail about how the propose the contact will work in practice and sanctions and accountability. the fear that the industry would to any event manage to -- once aga general agreement was reached and followed by negotiations with the desmond problem. finally you refer to aspects of the new system which are in your opinion in common with the cold. >> yes. >> are there any points you wish to develop or amplify -- >> i think the funding is difficult because press boff is it's back to their system and they pay for. so how would you fund this, perhaps it does have to be a claim upon the public first. i think the editor's code has always been a major flaw. the fact we're servinging people who decide what the editor's code is is just so obviously a flaw in the whole syste

but i think my worry in relation to michael gove and some of the political leaders just want this to go away. >> and then mr. campbell, will you identify what you've described as potential flaws in lord hunt's proposals? first of those you've already identified paragraph iragraph 4 paper is under no obligation to -- lack of detail about how the propose the contact will work in practice and sanctions and accountability. the fear that the industry would to any event manage to -- once aga general agreement was reached and followed by negotiations with the desmond problem. finally you refer to aspects of the new system which are in your opinion in common with the cold. >> yes. >> are there any points you wish to develop or amplify -- >> i think the funding is difficult because press boff is it's back to their system and they pay for. so how would you fund this, perhap it does have to be a claim upon the public first. i think the editor's code has always been a major flaw. the fact we're servinging people who decide what the editor's code is is just so obously a flaw in the whole system.

the 19th of march, 2012, you can see that you have four dinners/social engagements with michael and be -- and sara gove, and with michael osborn. and they're both to be with news international. what, in general terms, is the nature of the discussions you have with these people? i'm not talking about social interaction, i'm talking about discussions about, which relate to political or media issues. could you assist us at all? >> largely talking about the economy, talking about, um, how to, you know -- what george's attitude was towards the economy, the crisis, the economy, you know, largely macro things like that. be and, um, if i had a conversation with him at all, it was just about those issues. and then with michael and sara it was normally about the importance of education. my company feels very strongly about education. in fact, the success at "the daily mail" was born out of the education act in the victorian times, and we feel it's very important that the quality of education and literacy in this country improve. so like mr. murdoch, i had ample opportunity to talk to him about that because we ha