robertson looked into petn. which is the name that's being used in this. it's nonmetallic. and petn was the explosive used by the underwear with bomber. i want to show you what nick discovered about what petn is capable of. take a look at this clip. >> here we go. >> explosive expert showed me the power of a tiny amount of petn. this really is a messy powder. >> then he agreed to replicate printer toner bombs. >> if this were explosive, bits of me would go around the room. >> 3, 2, 1 that is where the table was standing, you can see the blast effect. if that had been part of an airplane's fuselage, heaven help the airplane. it would have been a terminal event i'm afraid. >> how does somebody -- i don't want to say anything inappropriate. but is it easy for people to get or make petn? >> one of the things al qaeda in yemen, if the arabian peninsula has been boasting about in the inspire magazines, al qaeda's glossy magazines, about how to do your magazines, if you will, they printed a couple of those magazines last week, they were boasting there about the fact that they've taken control of the territory inside yemen, and they've taken control of la bore torys ther