the jingle, the beer that made milwaukee famous, hard as it may be to believe, it wasn't because schlitzd so good. or at all. that's not what first made its hometown famous beyond its borders. it was because in the wake of the great fire joseph schlitz donated thousands of barrels of beer to chicago, all of chicago's breweries were wiped out in the fire. this was brilliant marketing, a true loss leader. >> today on backstory we're coming to you from the city that was made famous by schlitz, we're in milwaukee, at the 2012 annual meeting of the organization of american historians and the national council on public history. which in case you haven't noticed, guys, means we're surrounded by a lot of people who know more history than us. >> fortunately we're used to that. >> true. >> but not all in one place which is intimidating so hello, milwaukee. >> great to see you. >> hey, milwaukee. >> yay! >> all right. big surprise. our theme for today's show is, guess what, americans relationship with beer. and drinking in general. as we do in each week on our radio show, we'll be bouncing around t