here is steve forbes and rich, and victoria and rick and elizabeth. and so rich, why is it good that jobless benefits are expiring? >> when a democratic president clinton ended welfare in the 90s. it was good for recipients and people learned how to get up go to job. it is call would tough love . u would like to have a four percent growth economy to end jobless benefits, but we don't have that and it is not going to happen under the jobless administration. >> it is tough medicine but in the end it is for the good. >> look, i mean, we are all happy that there is jobs opening up this is a reflection on the good work done by the administration. what does concern me is the people out there saying, now the people who are cruising on unemployment are forced to go and get a job. >> average check to someone on unemployment is south of $300 a week. there are people who are watching the show who are trying to support a family on less than $300 a week f. you done think they are not trying to find anything, you are not honest. they want jobs all along. it is not

we'll in with steve forbes and elizabeth mcdonald and rick unger and john. >> and steve, a qualifier or disquaffer. >> huge qualifier it means that people are trying to get ahead. and that means less taxs and regulation and a sound dollar. romney lived through it and obama has not and why the economy is stalled today. being a capitalist is a qualifier for job as president. >> it is not a disqualifier. i don't have a problem. and equipped with a balance sheet is what it took to be president of the united states. we can grab bernie madoff and let him run for office. bernie madoff was a crook and mitt romney is not a crook. i am not suggesting he is a group. but he is easy with the balance sheet and not qualified to be president. >> romney put it on the table when he talked about how he created 100,000 job in bain capitol. they are not there to create jobs. that is perfectly fine and it is okay to make a profit for the investors, but suggesting that he was a great job creator. he opened the door to the discussion. i don't think that that smart. but he created the situation. it is not on

here is steve forbes and rich, and victoria and rick and elizabeth.nd so rich, why is it good that jobless

also called -- to show you how important political advertising is, it's called the house that steve forbes built based off of his political advertising. this is a very big deal for us. what we started doing is a number of fact checks not just on campaign ads but also on the campaign trail. here's the weird thing. it was all in preparation for our new hampshire primary. fwhul particular new hampshire primary, while i know particularly florida had so much advertising, we didn't. we really didn't. in fact, i call this lamest new hampshire primary we've had since 1960, and i mean it. in terms of advertising, there really wasn't a lot. mitt romney went on to win the state by 19 points. that was a hurnge factor of tha. a super pac from jon huntsman asked wouldn't it be great if there was a candidate. yes, there is one, jon huntsman and never said his name. the other one is a ron paul super pac. i call it the monster truck ad. ron paul is as big as an f-150. but for us, in fact checking, it was on our air which is the first component of why we would fact check it and second, you'd have to have so

we are amazed barack obama needs to raise $1 billion what about the fact that steve forbes or ross perot or eric prance to be competitive what if they write the $1 billion check? purely by the interest of 1 billion her? we always or about money but not like this. we are in a position it is a hard environment for political reform because of the corruption came to the supreme court decisions and you cannot appeal those. it is probably amendment to the american constitution. i do not say that lightly. it is a big undertaking. [applause] we are a long way off for fixing it as they strike down state limits it is hard to set of good example and it worries me the most. [applause] to more brief questions. >> to what expense has u.s. government changed the concept of what is the threat? in announcing the bush should ministrations wage war on and a type of 46 to zero to what extent is the unmooring of american military power" further enabled the military itself? >> it is moller of the symptom and they add a cause. the war on terror is some then the war of terror. a war of tactic than a war on a ba

what about the fact that somebody wanted this year's steve forbes or this year's i don't know eric prince or somebody to be competitive. why not find one of america's billionaires and one of these guys is worth $7 billion ored. it's a three-way race but purely by one billionaire's interest. we worried about it like this. so i think that we are in a position right now that's a very hard environment for political reform. because these corp. rueings here came through supreme court decisions and you don't repeal them. what you're talking about in order to fix this, i think, and i don't say this lightly is probably an amendment to the american constitution. and that's a big undertaking. [applause] so, you know, i think we are a long way off from fixing it. as they continue to strike down state efforts at the state level it's going to be hard to set a example an the country. it's the thing that worries me the most in all of politics. [applause] okay. >> we'll take a few more. we keep adding questions. two more brief, brief questions. your other questions? >> okay. go ahead. >> hi. to what exten

something only me and forbes knows about. me and steve. me and steve forbes. >> gretchen: okay.baker's family wants to honor him with a flag in their hometown of springhill, tennessee. the problem? the town says the flag program is for servicemen and women who are on active duty. baker's widow and ten-year-old son joined us earlier to tell us what this might mean to them. >> the fallen, they're the ones that were serving. so it would be a good honor. i already support them 'cause they risked their lives for our freedom. >> gretchen: bakers say they're especially hurt bit town's decision because there aren't that many military families living there to begin with. it's about memorial day. you would think they would honor men and women who have died and who we're remembering. >> steve: all right. 19 minutes before the top of the hour on this thursday. we told you about a catholic university dropping its entire student health care program. now it's happening at another school. peter johnson, jr. says this is just the beginning. expect things to get militant perhaps. >> brian: and ho

is also called -- to show you how important political advertising is, is called the house that steve forbes built. this is a very big deal for us. what we started doing was a number of fact checks, not just on campaign ads, but also on the campaign trail. here is the weird thing. it is all in preparation for our new hampshire primary, but this particular new hampshire primary, while i know particularly florida had so much advertising, we didn't. we really didn't. in fact, i call this the lamest new hampshire primary we have had since 1960, and i really mean it. advertising was not a lot. mitt romney went on to win the state by 19 points. that was a huge factor. the other important thing is there were only two super pacs that played, one was from john huntsman. they said wouldn't it be great if there was a candidate, and there was, his nast walk huntsman. ron paul, i call it the monster truck ad. he is as big as an f-150. it was on our air, which is why we would fact check. we didn't run a lot for the lead-in. i picked some from the last senate election in 2010. one you may know. the first i

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