i know a lot of people, tom foley was a local politician -- a local lawyer, got elected to congress.n, came across pretty well, you could win a race without having a zillion dollars. now, if you say this information flow, according to you, is run by money. >> that's not what -- >> you just said it. >> deb fischer is an example of what you're talking about. he's a rancher, a mother, a small business owner. >> because she was anointed by your rich buddies. >> she was not anointed by anybody. >> mr. rickets has got a couple hundred million dollars and he says, i'll give you some. >> that's not true at all. the people of nebraska decided. it's time for change. >> if deb fischer gets elected to the united states senate, do you think mr. rickets will be able to get a meeting with her once in a while? >> i don't know. all mr. rickets wants and all that we should want is a budget. he just wants the leaders to lead. >> i didn't see the ads. i saw ads that trashed your opponents. >> thank you, sir. thank you, madam. i like you a lot. i disagree you, get along with you. >>> when we return, let