hearing from the inside a message very different turns out for what's actually been happening aaron swartz is the founder and executive director of demand progress he joined me earlier and i asked him if he was surprised by the u.s. government's involvement take a look you know i think like you said it wasn't surprising a lot of analysts had suspected it was the u.s. and israel but what was surprising was that they came out. you know i mean you read in the new york times article that obama himself was worried that that this would set a terrible precedent i mean this is basically the act of war in the u.s. government has just admitted they were behind i mean it's interesting to me because you know based on what many of our leaders have been telling us you know we should be afraid of other countries doing this to us let me just play a few examples for you. weapon of mass disruption you could have a cyber attack that would be as consequential in terms of the economy maybe even in terms of loss of life as things we typically use or say read more from the next pearl harbor that we confront coul

takedown of mega upload and what does this mean for copyright battle and internet freedoms at large aaron swartz founder and executive director of demand progress joins me now aaron can you give our audience a little update about what is happening with the extradition case right now. you know well it's interesting because mega company has provided two defenses one is that there's been a whole series of government misconduct so for example like you mentioned the government is refusing to turn over the actual evidence against nick upload it it's been alleged that they made it legal copies of some of the information that the government has lost some of the key evidence all sorts of various examples of misconduct and mishandling of the case the other is that the you know the entire case is a mistake that the u.s. government is trying to pursue once and for a registered corporation megas register in hong kong in u.s. courts and the company argues that you know you can't sue a foreign corporation in u.s. courts they have to pursue it in concordance what do you think about the f.b.i. is saying you know

care about privacy well joining me to discuss that is aaron swartz executive director of demand progress aaron nice to have you back on the show tonight and i guess first let me just ask you do you find this is absurd and as disturbing as i do this whole argument of theirs that really it's all for your privacy. well it's good to see you again i think this one really is pretty funny it's even funnier if you read the actual letter they sent the senators when they said we thought about your request the whole n.s.a. leadership discussed it and we decided it would be a serious privacy invasion to answer it i mean just like the notion of the n.s.a. leaders getting in a room and trying to come up desperately with some reason that in have to turn over this data and coming across the notion of oh oh oh it's private it's just a letter it's what one of their other arguments though was that you know they just don't have the capacity to even find that number right now and so if they did dedicated their precious resources to trying to figure out that number it would take away those resources from you

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