. >> elisabeth benjamin, in terms of the issue of saving lives, overall, medicare for all, if you could explain its, what it would mean and the difference between that and what we have right now? >> the medicare system is a system where the government reimburses providers, essentially, directly, although some use medicare through managed care plans, the vast majority of americans who are seniors or have disabilities long-term use the medicare system to pay for their care. that is just a direct government to provider payment, essentially. this puts the insurance companies in the middle. it is building off the current system of employer-sponsored insurance coverage or job-based insurance coverage. what it does is it says that people who do not have medicare would go to the local state, if they did not have job-based coverage and that your employer will have to automatically enroll you in health insurance if you're in a large company and if your small employer, the have no requirement but it up to 50% tax subsidies if they do so. there is incredible incentive for small businesses to offer