george tiller was just shot. >> that sunday morning, dr. he tragic news to each other by phone. >> i called joanne first, and, of course, she was devastated. >> cathy said, they shot doctor. i remember specifically cathy said they, and that's exactly how we thought of it, they. we knew exactly who they were. >> then i called dr. sella, and i still hear her screaming in my ears, oh, no. you're kidding. you're kidding. >> i don't think i've ever experienced that kind of grief. it seems so wrong. so wrong. that someone who was so incredible, so amazing to be killed. for what? >> during the murder investigation, authorities discover a piece of evidence in scott roeder's car that potentially connects him to operation rescue. when questioned, operation rescue president troy newman flatly denies any ties to roeder or to the murder. >> one of our phone numbers were found on the dashboard of scott roeder's car after he was arrested, and it was the contact phone number that was the information line. it was where people call to find out where the praye

she was not just a friend of george tiller the partial birth abortion best she raised money for him. how could you get any more left field and kathleen sebelius? it is observed at least give joe biden crafted to and bill daily. they warned him. catholics will not put up with us. but unfortunately they were a veto. kathleen sebelius who left the catholic church they are clueless purview give advice to the president? and made the true in the past with passive bishops others tainted by the scandal. but that occurred between the '60s and that 80 is. that we have the new crop of bishops today. like cardinal boland and the archbishop out of philadelphia and the card know who my love, they don't understand this is not about contraception about the first amendment. if it is about contraception and you could get them at planned parenthood i think mayor bloomberg gave away 90 million condoms. i don't know the logic on that but that is how i answer that one. >> how do approach the parochialism on secular people not to think about how use for the catholics to criticize and critique? >> i have ne

a she wasn't just a friend of il george tiller and the partial birth abortion, she raised money for it. it is hardho how youw can get y further out there in left field than kathleen sebelius. you have to give joe biden credit and catholics aren't going to put up with us. this is a first amendment issue. telling nonprofit catholics want to do. unfortunately, they were vetoed, weren't they. there are a lot of people like kathleen sibelius who have left the church in a practical way wd and they are clueless.and mahe u he may have been true than in the past you might have found a lot of bureaucratic bishops.e a lot of them are very passive, you would've found others tainted by the scandal. that scandal occurred between the 60s and the 80s. let's look at the timeline. my point is that we have a newnl crop of bishops today, and when you have men like [inaudible vame], archbishop, [inaudible o name], and cardinal [inaudible name], these men are brilliant, they are tough, and there is a lot of them out there. they don't understand this is not about contraception. this is about the first amendm