. >> my name is jerry bogart. i have been involved with artists for the last 50 years. a lot of them that i know and that have lived in areas that have no light, i want to say it makes the room quieter. i do a lot of computer programming for the firms that come into the city. we like rooms -- and in fact from in a lot of the college's we block out the windows because it cuts out the noise and the environment that is interrupting us. it is not a negative to have a situation -- and in fact, i know and have interviewed people that have been in a room with auxiliary years, whenever you want to call it, and they love it and have been there for eight and nine years in that environment. the work nights -- they work nights. during the day they have a roof deck that they can go on to. it is not a negative thing to have a room without light in it, especially a bedroom. in san francisco, it is very difficult with their windows, especially on market street because of the noise. if you have no windows, it is like being in the country. it is quiet. it is not a negative thing to be in