here to discuss the findings are matthew leatherman of the stinson center and steech paul of the programsultation. gentlemen, welcome to the program. matt, let me start with you. different than the one that is have come before it and what are the major takeaways? >> there's a major difference between this survey and the one that is come before it. this survey looks at how the defense budget is actually built. we aggregate the budget into ground forces, air forces, navel forces, much in the same way the pentagon engages the budget. it's actually the military services that are building it, that's why you see such ut:h0@6cj% going back for 40-plus years. it varies within 1.5% traditionally. we look at people to look at it in that same lens. we hope by doing so the results will be more applicable to a heated defense budget debate for the 2012 election and beyond. >> we also gave them more information about how much actually goes to defense. we showed them how much is spent relative to other items udget, as a percentage of gdp, as compared to the past, as compared to potential enemies. so the