welcome back to the kaiser report i'm max kaiser time now to go to boulder colorado to talk with michael kraig of liberty let's create dot com michael maybe a vacuum waited at any moment as a giant forest fire threatens to engulf his area of this city michael krieger welcome to the kaiser report thank you so much for having max and yes it's true i want to create accusation notice all my important stuff is packed up and i'm ready to roll but i mean that's ethnic all right michael kroger barclays bank was just fine two hundred million dollars for rigging live boring euro bar rates a three hundred fifty trillion dollars market they were also asked by the c. f.t.c. to please stop doing that your thoughts yeah i mean this is this is a recurrent theme and i think there's there are two are two key things to to understand and notice with regard to the story the first is that reason the. why this is so pervasive and becoming more pervasive by the day and work reaches in more aggressive as far as manipulation of markets and the key rates that everything else is priced that are offered is because of the