mr. galucci or maybe mr. tarantino. what value would that data add to the process if there any? >> thank you, mr. chairman for that question. some of the data points that i think specifically you are talking about data points on student veterans and information on a student veteran on a school. michael and myself had an opportunity to sit in on a technical review panel to collect information on student veterans. basic items that the vhw believe that the student veterans want to know before they attend an academic institution. they have to do with unique services or advisers on campus. also the total veteran population and the number of beneficiaries on campus and service members, veterans and their dependents who are eligible for benefits. one of the ideas and a member of organizations have been kicking around, is there a better metric as it is reported through the ipad system. to a non-traditional student population, the graduation rate is irrelevant. i had a discussion with my colleague, ray, about this gratuation rate metric. neither of us are considered successful graduates

mr. ryan galucci from the veteran of foreign wars and also a michael dakdut. as the panelists take your seats, i would ask you to limit your oral statements to the five minutes allotted so that the panel has sufficient time for questions. let's begin with mr. winn. you are recognized for five minutes. >> thank you. good afternoon, chairman stutzman and ranking member brayley, and fellow veterans and guests. let me first thank you for the opportunities to come before you on behalf of the veterans organizations they represent to share our views on the president's recent executive order 13607. this order is a generous step towards offering for-profit colleges and institutions that receive g.i. bill funding for students and veterans an opportunity to improve their r performance before laws are passed that will impose more severe regulatory remedies. though my time in service was many years ago as a vietnam era veteran in the u.s. air force, i have vivid memories of the military experience, and i remember quite well the tough time i had finding employment after goi

mr. ryan galucci from the veteran of foreign wars and also veterans of america. and michael dukdut from the student veterans of america. if the first panel would take their seats, since we have many witnesses today, i remind each of you to limit your oral statement to the five minutes that is allotted so that the subcommittee will have sufficient time for questions. let's begin with mr. winn. you are recognized for five minutes. >> thank you. good afternoon, chairman stutzman, ranking member braley, and fellow veterans and guests. let me first thank you for the opportunity to come before you on behalf of the veterans