ms. quindlen.ng to hark back to the comments on the pro-choice debate, and perhaps i took your statement wrongly, but it seemed to me you were discounting any of the opinions that men may have on this topic. one of the things that i've run into in discussion with women who are of the pro-choice philosophy when i point out to them that if a woman who decides to have a baby and the husband is the one who wants to have the abortion, doesn't want anymore children, that's out of the picture because of the pro-choice, and at the same time, he's expected to support this child after it's born. there seems to be -- >> host: edward, i think we got your point. anna quindlen? >> guest: the point is absolutely accurate. if a woman is pregnant, wants to carry it to term, the law says he has to help support that child, but that if she has an abortion, she gets to make that decision on her own. all i can say about that is one of the hard things about this issue is that in some ways, it is thee most complex issue t