the one question that i'm going to ask her to help us with is procedurely, there was this change that is referenced in the language of the special order that calls upon the public hearing that is taking place right now and i believe a vote to approve the use of the tier 3 funds to take place prior to the meeting at which the budget is adopted. so just procedurely, and i don't -- unfortunately know all of the details about whether the augmented budget committee having a discussion and action item on that piece whether that would suffice and meet the requirements of the a law that was passed in the last year. >> unfortunately not. it has to be at a regularly scheduled board meeting and i don't believe the augmented committee meeting would constitute that. i may be wrong but -- >> commissioner wynns? >> we have to get a separate meeting reform >> it says regularly scheduled. we could not change it to a special meeting of the board? we are planning all to be there. >> that is an option. why don't we look at that. >> it meets a regularly aagendaized meeting. >> i'm going to advocate for th

the court has acted. >> the sthamt there is a fail tower have the auditing process with the procedures they use leads you to talk about this being a dragnet is based on lack of sufficient information in the public domain to make the judgment? >> there two things. the statute itself which authorizes the dragnet surveillance and the obama administration has not disagreed with that. >> they didn't use that word, but they did say that this statute can be used. >> you said there is no auditing process. in fact, there is a requirement that the court must review these programs on an annual basis in addition to the applications suggested by the court in particular cases. could you reflect on that based on prior experience? >> the competence of the court? >> when and whether they ask these types of questions. i can tell you what i know from briefings and what we have seen, but your experience on that. >> thank you for the question, sir. i was the assistant for national security. that's for the time i was there. i can tell you from personal experience, they are very active and they are federal judges and

jafer, do you ha jafer, problem with -- procedures that are used by the intelligence conduct these programs, that is if the programs have an annual review? >> i don't think the question is one of competence, i think it's one of to the security's as the court been given the authority to actually ask the government why it's been engaged in this kind of surveillance. >> so your question you don't know if that that's the case, or you believe that that is not the case. i. >> i don't think there's -- >> so your statement that the failure to have an auditing process of the procedures they use leads you to talk about this being a dragnet is based on lack of sufficient information in the public domain to make that july, is that correct? >> there's two things t statute itself that authorizes this kind of dragnet surveillance. and the obama administration has not disagreed with that. >> i don't recall gne that wor but they did say that this staff yult can be used for nonindividuals. >> as you said, there is no auditing process. in fact there is a requirement that the court must review these programs, these spe

. >> and there is a local woman says a procedure saved her life. stay with us. edededededmf >>> season fran internationally renowned boy's chorus is on the verge of a crisis some questioning whether to send them to the organization summer camp. and others may not rejoin in the fall. now, what is behind all of the turmoil. >> there is nothing to do with beautiful voices or those that trained them. it's over management of the organization which some parents call nonpresponsive. this san francisco boy's chorus is one of the city jewels founded in 1948 and sings around the world. now, there is a sour note. 100 parents have signed a petition and says the board is shutting them out. >> just want to have a voice on the board simply to be involved to engage paernts that will help the organization. >> on the administrative side parents accuse what one calls an unbelievably disrespectful board of directors for chasing away most of the staff and refusing outside input. >> this is clear the intoord out of sync. >> the former mayor pumped $25,000 a year into a sollarship to a

there is a special home office procedure for helping with particularly complex and expensive investigations used in various cases and it would be used in this case and he was satisfied that that was dealt with properly and effectively. it's an example, if you like, of the experience of making sure these things are done properly and i believe it was. >> were you aware of any pressure being put on you directly or indirect le by mrs. brooks to cause the review to take place? >> pressure, no. i wasn't aware of any pressure. >> it wasn't pressure, was any influence then sought to be imposed? and a case that a number of newspapers wanted to champion because their readers wanted to champion it. obviously as government you have there is media pressure or is it genuine public pressure or a genuine case and are we treating this fairly? i did ask those questions of the permanent secretary number ten. we made an appropriate response. i don't remember any sort of specific pressure or being put on me. i think i am given evidence on this as well. >> going to a different topic, it ties in with the implied deal

way is to move forward with this, with the acknowledgment that practical measures are being taken and we are, you know, proper procedure is being followed. >> thank you very much indeed for joining us. >> the burmese pro-democracy leader, aung san suu kyi, is in switzerland at the start of her first trip to europe in more than 20 years. her first engagement is a speech ated head of the labor organization in geneva. this body has long campaigned for an end to child and slave labor in burma. she's delivering the speech, as you can see now, just dip in for a moment or two. >> ranging from the kind of foreign direct investment they considered desirable, to the role that government should play to ensure the right kind of business practices. i list some of these below that this conference might see that despite many years of isolation and repression, our people can still boast a social, political, and economic awareness that, given sufficient latitude, would bring our country in line with positive developments in the rest of the world. >> aung san suu kyi there delivering her first speech in europe for some 24 years. now, she's going to be over here for a little while. she'll be visiting

and it was drawn to my attention that there is a special home office procedure for helping with particularly complex and expensive investigations that's been used in various cases and that was going to be is in this case and you satisfied that it had been dealt with properly. so it's an example if you like of the importance of major these things are done properly. and i believe they were. >> where, were you aware that any pressure being put on you directly or indirectly by mrs. brooks to cause this review to take place at? >> pressure? know. i wasn't aware of pressure. >> well, if it wasn't pressure, was any influence of that sort being impose? >> clearly, this was a very high profile case. and a case a number of newspapers want to do champion because their readers wanted to champion it. and, obviously, as a government you have to think are we helping with this because there's media pressure, or is it genuine public pressure, is there a genuine case are we treating this fairly? and i did ask those questions of the permanent secretary number 10 so i think we made an appropriate response. but i don't remember any sort of specific pressure or bein

with them. >> this uses a radio frequency element which basically just means a heater probe. >> so the procedure is less invasive than older techniques that were used where you surgically had to have those varicse veins removed. >>> the recession is taking a toll on young adults. a new report shows more and more adults are moving back in with mom and dad. that report from the census bureau shows an increase of 1.2 million, half of all people moving home are between the ages of 25 and 34. >>> 4:57 right now. we've often talked p the cost of a wedding and how exepsive it can be. now that includes the wedding cake, of course. they can cost thousands of dollars. so what is happening is some supermarkets are stepping up. they want to get in on the game of a $74 billion wedding cake industry. so they're offering cake designs -- how much? >> $74 billion. cakes are expensive. what they're doing is couples are now getting these cakes on a budget and more and more brides and grooms are taking advantage of it. >> it could be the euro, you know. >> cake might be low on the priority list for some people so goin

. >> i do have problems with procedure and the way this was put before us, but i will address myself to the issue. credit cards. what we have is a reduction of the credit card charge from 5% to 3.5% and some other changes. this is better than it was before, but only by comparison. if you take away somebody's loaf and give a piece of in back to them, they are not really going to thank you for that. these are charges that should be borne by taxi companies. i cannot tell you how many times -- virtually every passenger who gets into my cab asks me if i will take a credit card. by now, virtually nobody should be asking that question. maybe out-of-towners', but certainly these costs should be invisible to the passenger and the driver. the way to do that is to place them upon the taxi company, as green tab does right now. by doing that, you are going to get a much higher number of credit cards taken. you will have fewer disputes with passengers. you are going to enhance driver safety. the more cash to get out of the cab, the safer the drivers are. the costs companies would have to bear our ordinary costs of providing taxi service, of

use a new procedure that is far less invasive. they take a portion of dad's liver, put it in the child and it will grow with him. three months later, charlie is doing great and if all goes well, he'll grow up healthy and strong and make his dad so happy indeed. that's 9news for tonight, thanks for staying up with us. have a happy father's day. >> thank you, thank you. >> good night.

with regard to the procedure i may very well not contest some of the decisions. we may agree that some of this is admissible. it's useful to go through the declaration an hear the objections because it is going to make the procedure of taking testimony shorter. so that would be my suggestion. but i understand and appreciate the criticism. >> thank you, mr. keith. >> my concern when you say that you didn't have control over the witness and that she had her own attorney but you were the one that submitted the declaration. so you had to have looked at it. so you could have said to her attorney, these paragraphs are not relevant or they're prejudicial and they don't relate to the issues but i accept the difficult you have under those circumstances. but again, the problem i have with going over paragraph by paragraph is that if -- in order to do that we simply have to repeat the same things that are being said and out into the mass media. the mass media can look at it now. in fact, when this was filed, the next day the chronicle had portions of what was in there -- in their story. fortunately, they didn't go into all the det

with regard to the procedure i may very well not contest some of the decisions. we may agree that some of this is admissible. it's useful to go through the declaration an hear the objections because it is going to make the procedure of taking testimony shorter. so that would be my suggestion. so that would be my suggestion. but i understand and appreciate

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they can be used with a 20 permit limit in the city, where they have the availability to come in and purchase on a one time basis. the second change is the seller procedure. we kind of do not have that. the third item, where you do not have the speaker, amending section 9064 contract in parking meters within 1,500 feet, or three blocks, whichever is greater. so, this issue came up and has been coming up over several years, since it was established. it is the only permit of its kind, like that, that allows any kind of business for a permit to park. that is when they are doing business with small contractors. they usually allow the conducting a business around the bases. their offices, that is what is happening. these permits are not being used by small contractors to park on the street around their offices, thereby limiting the parking availability for the businesses on the block. they are also taking these permits and parking their personal cars within their parking lots and putting these cars on the streets. we are filing a violations. the attempt of the permit is to allow contractors to do the business during the day. we have been working with the boar

more or less follow the administrative procedure act that does allow some here say as evidence to be considered. my view on this is that i am concerned with the use of excessive here say in a case like this. it is hard in a situation where you have adjudicator to or not a jury. the risk of some here say is not as high as it would be in case of a jury. i come out -- my view is we should allow some here say evidence. i do not think we should rely on the rules of evidence. i personally would caution the parties that we are not going to -- i would not be persuaded by if the only evidence on the matter was here say evidence. i welcome the views of my fellow commissioners. >> where do we draw the line if we're going to have some here say. are we going to decide on a case by case basis as it comes up? >> could you repeat the question? >> where do we draw the line on hearsay evidence that is to be admitted? do we decide on a case by case basis as it comes up? >> any other commissioners have views on that? >> having spent my life as a litigator and familiar with the hearsay rules, i find myself very close to the chairman pose a position. i would be a relu

think is the simple question of allow us to understand when knew what at the high levels of the justice department with what is a pretty straightforward and admitted violation of their own proceduresbig difference between facts and suspicions. and sometimes when people don't give you information you develop suspicions and some of reasonable suspicions. sort of going into your own mind, reasonable suspicion, what do you suspect is going on? what is being hidden or what is not being hidden? >> well, once again, and i'm not being avoiding, i like to see, and this is the prosecutor background, you like to see what really comes in. >> and you are a former u.s. attorney? >> yes. and i want to know. to a certain extent why would they carry this out this far? because it would have been very easy to come forward and admit that there were problems associated the way that the, you know, the investigations were carried out, that they were against department policy, we are fixes it. and the horrible repercussions of the fact that somebody died as a result of it. but it happened and we fixed it. but it seems to me they are digging a deeper hole by the way they have handled this. >> it's sort of

think this idea of sort of dealing with the cost, and making sure we're doing a better job of paying providers to keep us well, rather than doing procedures when we're sick is something -- there is a lot of uncertainty about how we're going to get there, but if we don't get there, i don't see how what we have is sustainable. >> i talked to most people and i certainly agree myself. i hope the court rules it unconstitutional, but i will tell you either rule it unconstitutional or rule it constitutional because anything in between will create more incertainty, more complexity. part of the -- the debate was focused on the wrong issue, we focused on access, when we should have been focused on cost. we're trying to focus on wellness and prevention. i can walk down the hall in my old office and in ten seconds maybe a financial transaction to beijing china. because we have got a common political platform. if i'm in beijing, china, and i needed my medical records in 24 hours, i would die weight for it to get there. but we have seen in our own state health insurance focusing on wellness and prevention can help drive down costs. >> and i think the vast majority of uta

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in a statement they told us, and i quote, senator joyce is once again making false statements when faced with compelling evidence of the efficacy of aversive procedures. the army of people descending on the massachusetts statehouse that he refers to are not, quote, lobbyists and lawyers, they are dozens of parents of jrc students who visit the statehouse to inform the legislators about how aversive therapy saved their child's life when no other treatment would work. similarly, the statement went on, senator joyce is making false statements about the current and former jrc students who courageously testified at hearings conducted by the massachusetts legislature about their life of pain, anguish and hopelessness caused by their untreatable behavior disorder and how the jrc treatment program saved their life. senator joyce joins me and another from rush university r university medical center in chicago. they're saying you're lying about the students who testified and about the large number of lobbyists and lawyers who you say are involved in keeping this center open. your response. >> well, every single statement that i've made is documented and source

claims and in a statement they told us and i quote, senator joyce is making false statements when faced with compelling evidence of the efficacy of aversive procedures. the army of people descending on the massachusetts state house that he refers to are not lobbyists or lawyers, but dozens of the parents who informed the legislatives about how aversive therapies saved their child's life when no other treatment would work. similarly the statement went on, senator joyce is making false statements about the current and former jrc students who courageously testified atti hearings about their life of pain, anguish and hopelessness and how the jrc program saved their life. senator brian joyce joins me now along with dr. crouse from chicago. so the center is saying you're making false statements or lying about the students who testified about and the large number of lobbyists who are involved in keeping this center open. your response? >> well, every single statement that i have made is documented and sourced. the statement that you just read actually came from not the center itself, but a very high-priced public relations firm. the money they spend on law

us well 60 years later. i am not a professor of law, i have no forms of -- what i thoroughly applaud is michael's injunction that we actually look with a critical eye at whether the administrative procedure act really is fit for our present government and what has become my hobby horse in recent years is that i think we should have the same spirit of critical scrutiny toward the constitution of the united states. we could have an argument, though, frankly, it would not be very productive at this point with regard to the debates about, say john's view of his executive powers and those of his critics, it's a bit like a media convention and you can just shout out a number, you laugh or not, but everybody knows what the arguments are. i'm willing to stipulate, something i don't really believe, but i want to stipulate for the sake of argument that john gets it exactly right in his reading what the constitution means, the fact that it was provide -- what i would ask us to think about, is even if, again, by stipulation, perhaps there was reason to do that in 1787, does it make much sense now? one thing about the kicks is they tend to be adults. there's no reason for the american revolution, oth

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us for this debate. dr. stevens, let me start with you. this procedure isy myto chondrial d.n.a. have a chance for being born with birth defects. they use the d.n.a. from a different woman and that way this baby has d.n.a. from three different parents. avoiding birth defects. why don't you like this idea? >> well, first of all it's unethical. second of all, it's unnecessary, and third, it's dangerous, aly. it's unethical because this crosses the bright line in the sand that we have had in science that you don't manipulate genes in embryos, eggs or sperm because it's passed on from generation to generation. and if you make a mistake, it's going to be something that effects those kids forever. secondly, it's unnecessary. it's unnecessary. >> obviously there is all sorts of other pregestational diagnosis that can be done to prevent people being done with birth defects. there is option obviously these women can resort to. i want to bring in dr. stevens here. i'm sorry i want to bring in dr. more ran know. basically this is playing god. playing with genes. why d

with the gentlewoman state her parliamentary procedure? >> my question is did anyone review with the justice department before the string whether the use of this information will harm the department ability to bring justice -- >> that is not a parliamentary inquiry. the gentleman to -- >> how do we know the use of information during this hearing is asked is -- >> we're going to have to deduct this on your time if you continue. that is not a parliamentary inquiry. >> i believe it is, mr. chairman. but i hope we reduce -- >> mr. forbes is recognized for his questions. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i think despite all the rhetoric we know that this committee is not asking you to break the law regarding what you say your information, you provide to congress. it's just as you know it doesn't matter if you appear in congress seven times or 70 times. it when you're asked you say i don't know to the questions that are most pertinent. or it doesn't matter if you supply 7000 pages, or documents, or 700,000 pages if they are not the proper papers to answer key questions. so i want to begin where you begin, and that was the standard that you said you h