said just before i came on was a big part of it, that we need more women in washington and elaine barrish hammondan example of a woman who is a passionate advocate for people, for the real concerns of people. she's direct, she's confident, she's unencumbered by a lot of the connections. you know, she's just very down-to-earth and i think very effective and i think women represent that kind of approach to politics. we're used to rolling up our sleeves and getting things done. and there's a little less game playing. i think that was part of the appeal was to try to portray that kind of feminine leadership in washington and also i think the chance to tell a story in the long cable form so you go back and forth between the halls of power in d.c. and the living rooms of these very interesting people. >> of course, there are some who would say obvious parallels to the hillary and bill story. how do you get past that? you've created elaine barrish, a complete figure, and are there similarities, do you draw from the clinton saga or is that just a starting off point? >> well, i think it's the jumping-off

is about -- it is about a family that was in the white house, the matriarch of the family, elaine barrish hammondthe hammond family. i think the idea being that once a family has been in the white house, they want to get back in the white house, even though perhaps their experience in the white house left them printed, imprinted by that for good or for bad. >> greg, i'm looking at the plot line here. and i think all of the people that claim this is based on hillary clinton, i think that -- >> yeah. >> i think they're just whistling. they're whistling in the dark. listen to this. >> it is such a stretch. >> it is a stretch. it is about a former first lady, right, unsuccessful presidential candidate. >> right. >> who found a new purpose as secretary of state. where the hell do you guys come up with this stuff? >> it is like -- you just come up with stuff. >> that's just not realistic. >> i think a lot of a fun of a show like this is, you know, rather than necessarily pulling from the headlines as it were, we pull from the narratives of people that are in politics. and then it is our job to make the