and so i killed him. d it was years later that i was driving down i-5, which is the interstate that goes through oregon and washington. and, dark, middle of the night. and, you know, i love country music on the radio. and nobody bothers you, you know? you're just, everything's under control. and his eyes appeared in the windshield. and i'm psychologically aware enough to know that, "uh-oh, this guy is coming back. and he's coming back. and you need to deal with it." and that was the genesis of that second book. i started to write down what i was really trying to think about to reconcile, "what was that?" i mean, there we were. he would have killed me. i would have killed him. and both of us probably didn't want to do that. i mean, as soon as we got out of that situation, we'd go, like, "what was this all about?" and especially the vietnam war, you never knew what that was all about. he at least had the moral, whatever the word is, side of saying, "well, these guys are in my country. and we want them to lea

i could look at something and say, she would kill me if i did this and i would change it. there are all the things. it's a constant process. no book falls on to the page and the words don't just fall on the page. they may fall on the page and you delete half and start over. you take the one line that works and write around it. that's basically a lot of the way i write. i want to read you some and i guess i should read a little and i want to open up for questions about this book or the other books or what i'm doing now or not doing now. basically, for me i think samurai's garden another reason why love this book. everybody says, what's your favorite book? i think, they are like kids. you wouldn't say johnny is my favorite son. we all books at the time we need to write that book. it's hard to be an author because you have an audience and they want you to write particular books. if you don't write the book they want you to write then it's something else. but all the books are different in that way. because samurai's garden gave me the japanese culture and to a large extent sam

i went and i did it. and my partners were understanding, too. even though they were reluctant to see me do this. but i did it. so i went down and i did it and that's how i got hired. >> did you recruit any of the staff? >> i was involved -- i was involved in sort of vetting and discussing with doar certain people such as evan davis, for example. you know, and i was supportive of him hiring certain people who sort of came along. i tried to induce him to hire certain additional people which he decided he didn't really want to do. actually, people who turned out to be very prominent later on. one is pierre laval who's now in the 2nd circuit and the other is tony sifton who became chief judge of the eastern district of new york, both federal judges. sifton unfortunately died a few years ago. laval is still a judge in the 2nd circuit. doar decided -- i don't want to overstate this. i wanted more litigators and more trial lawyers for this thing. i envisioned a trial in the senate. i wanted guys, my contemporaries. doar, you know, he had me and he had s

i had two. and -- but it didn't have any insignia until i finally moved my stack and said, put something on me, somebody will arrest me someday and i'll get shot. >> what about the men journalists? >> huh? oh, the men were dressed up. it was different in that day. we were at war, you see. maybe when we go to war, the men corresponde correspondents, both the writers and photographers will be put in uniform, and you're under a certain control. you don't go roaming around as freely. you have to go and get clearance to go. it was never hard to get. wherever i wanted to go, i found i could get there. >> you were in algiers, going back just a little bit. that's when you covered patton at the pass during that retreat. >> well, i heard there was some action going on up there. and, of course, you went sometimes by plane and sometimes by -- managed to get a place, a group of soldiers that were moving up and that sort of thing. and so i wanted to find out what was going on. wherever i heard there was something

>> in december 31, i have a long conversation with my dad, and i talked to my brother, and i did not talk with them or any friend, because i thought it was not relevant to talk with them about this. goo>> why did you think it was relevant to talk to your neighbor, and ivory madison? >> she called me in december, and she said, can you call me so we can plan our goal for the new year? i said, can you take care of theo. i said, i will be there. i was mad and ross, so i said it was perfect. i went to see her. that was the conversation december 31. we plan for the next day. the next day i went to her home, and she started to talk about she is in therapy, and she mentioned my therapist. my therapist told me i have anger issues, and i thought, and who really? anchor issues, -- anger issues, and i think i would like the number, because i would like to share your professional opinion. that is how i started the conversation, and i remember when she mentioned dasthat. i said, i really need your professional opinion about this. it was as a lawyer, because she is always repeating that she is a la

i think one of -- i love people and i love emotions and i am fascinated by people, and i am fascinated by people's relationship with their emotions, whether or not they are open with them, whether or not they are repressing them, they acknowledge them, if they are traumatized in some way and can't access them. there are so many -- for every person you meet there is a whole new infinite number of possibilities of how that person has come to be and i just find -- i get really turned on by that and that leads you to a lot of great things that leads you to books you want to read, it leads you to studying psychology, it leads you to just sitting down and talking with people, observing human behavior, to dance and movement and it is all really connected and interesting. >> rose: have directors made an impact? >> oh, yes, oh, absolutely. i mean, i told you jonathan demi, i talked to him earlier today. he has had a huge impact on my life. to this day. gary marshall and, anna lee. >> rose: tell the story of anne lee, that was an early moment for you, wasn't it? >> yes, it was. >> rose: you said

i set out to put together a band, and i knew i wanted to be with don henley, and i wanted great singers as well as great players, and we told linda ronstadt we want to have our own band. we said, we want to have our own end. -- band. you know who would be really good with you is bernie. good night she brought him in, and -- she brought him in, and we met him, and she helped us get randy meissner to replace the bass player, so linda really helped us get the eagles together, but that is a little serendipitous. tavis: you said a couple of things. i think you are right that you have got to be open to constructive criticism, but not everybody is. particularly if you are bent on the idea that this is how i want to do it. you have to respect his style, but what was it that allow you to except his critique? >> he was the golden boy. he was representing joni mitchell, crosby stills and nash, he was the song writer's agent, so he was right. at 22 or 23 years old i was not ready to make a solo album. i was just getting going, so he was right. we got bernie to jam. we got randy to jam, and then i c

, and i have a great deal of respect for him, and i think the way he carries himself is exemplary, and it is something other commissioners can learn from. that being said, is this a nomination i can support at this point? unfortunately, i have to say i cannot. i respect the expertise and knowledge he has, but i think on a number of important issues, the commissioner and i have a different perspective, and while i respect his perspective, i respectfully disagree as to the kind of perspective that is needed at this point on the planning commission, so it is not something i am thrilled to do. i think anytime you oppose the nomination, it is not an easy thing to do, and it is not something that i'd do lightly, but given the approach on a number of different issues, i am not able to appoint this issue at this point, so i certainly agree with many of the points the were made us into the attributes this commissioner brings to the table during good >> i appreciate the comments, -- the commissioner brings to the table. >> i appreciate the comments. i have known him for a long time, and dr. anto

earl and i-- as a rail. earl and hi a little bond because he's a vietnam veteran and i was a vietnam veteran. and neither one of us had much of a filter. we pretty much say what we think at all times, good or bad. and it was an interesting day to watch this young kid, first of all people say did you see his talent. yeah, it was unbelievable, his natural talent it wasn't polished. the talent wasn't polished but you could see. >> rose: it was that hand-eye coordination. >> it was just beyond belief, what he could do. i remember ask him, tiger, i have asked you hit balls now for 15 minutes and we talked about a couple things. i said tell me, when you get to a hole where you absolutely have to drive the ball on the fairway, every great player has a little shot, most will tee it down low and chase a little draw out there or they will hold one off and think the out of the neck way little fade just to make sure the ball gets in the fairway. i said what do you do in pressure situations when you have to hit one in the

>> i am working telecommuting from home, and i am working, and i get a call, and i am doing the best i can see if she is in any danger or need any support. >> so you did not think of it at the time? >> yes. >> when you think that having guns and a home is a risk factor for further violence could >> yes. >> did you ask her whether she was threatening to leave the sheriff or to take their son? i. >> would you agree that the danger is heightened when the victim is threatening to leave? >> absolutely. >> did you ask her if the sheriff was ever drinking or using drugs during this time period? >> no. >> would you agree that drinking or using drugs is a risk factor for violence? >> yes. >> did michelob's tell me during this protocol, this first 40- minute phone call, that she was considering making a police report? >> no, she did not tell me that. >> Ñ[e 3did she discuss what effect this would have on sheriff mirkarimi? >> no, she did not bring it up. >> did you bring it up? >> no. >> do you know in she was considering bringing up your views to a doctor? >> yes, she did it tell me that. >>

and your journey. i know your work as a chef. we have almost met half a dozen times. >> in chicago. tavis: and we have never quite met until today, but i remember reading that peace in "vogue" about the book, which i had not seen at the time, and i said to my staff, "i have to get the book." i did not know that much about marcus, and i am glad you're here to do the show today. i want to sit back and let you tell the story, but when i read about what your mother did to save your life and your sister -- >> we had tuberculosis in ethiopia, and we did not come from the capital. we came from a small place, and my mom, she walked for days with me and my sister to get to a hospital. she was so focused on us getting short, us getting help, so she walked, she walked with us, and that is the last thing she did. she walked us to the hospital, and then she passed away. three months in a hospital, three months later, we got adopted, and then really my life started again. it is funny in life. the worst thing that can

>> no, i really wouldn't, and i don't want to. it is interesting because that person called me back six weeks later and said, hey, you nknow that thing i told you about, it turned out to be nothing. >> ultimate confirmation. >> and really. i could not get anywhere for a good period of time, and just brick walls and brick walls and it was not until a couple of months later at the annual golf event for the charity, and he is gone. jerry sandusky is always a huge figure there, and i asked why he is not there, and they said family issues. he is not here this year. and i asked somebody else, and they said, oh, he has health problems, and so, that was really when the story took off at that point. how many sources? it took -- i think that we counted at one point somewhere around 25 people i talked to, and some of them for just one or two minor details and others for five or six different interviews. we only had one person who gave -- not a reaction, but a substantive on the record, and so we set a high record for how many unnamed sources

vi and i read those two books, and i was a reporter forthe miami herald, and reading those two books was so much more profound than any of the journalism i was doing that i thought i should just work on books and have a deeply immersive experience and learn what real writing is about. and the great, you know, the great experience has been that i'm now actually john irving's editor. and it's been one of the best experiences of my life. >> with well, mr. karp, as a former newspaper reporter you've probably got a book in you, right? >> i don't know. when i was a newspaper reporter, i was -- one of my last stories is i was sent to cover a garbage dump that was on fire, so i think maybe i got out at the right time. >> morgan entrekin, how did you get into the publishing realm? >> i got into publish anything 977. i always say that i was at school in between the hippies and t yuppies so that just getting through school was an accomplishment. i was at stanford, and stanford has always had a great writers' program. and some of the people that were there at the time when i was there, raymond ca

sometimes i just show up, and when i show up something magical happens and i step out of the way and let it come through me. tavis: one of the other characters in your book is the neighborhood that you grew up in. that comes through pretty clearly to me. how much of your neighborhood, your upbringing, your surroundings, had to do in any way, if at all, with ushering your gift? >> well, the first piece of furniture in my parents' home was a piano, so it was there and i evidently have some sort of gift with it, so that was an opportunity. my parents were both supportive, exposed me to the arts, to music. i lived in new york city. i technically lived in brooklyn with access to new york city, and my mother brought me to shows, broadway shows. so i think living in new york was a world of opportunity that maybe is not as readily available to others who grow up in more rural communities. that is not to say that that stops them. they just have to travel farther. tavis: yeah. bob dylan was not born in new york city. >> no, he wasn't, but he showed up. tavis: yeah, so it can work even in dulut

so i flew to new york and i talked to her for 10 minutes and i came back. and i've been roaming around the country and doing -- what the hell have i been doing? >> i don't know. >> how are you, robert? how am i? well, i'm lonely. the way i always am. i was born lonely. i live lonely and i'll die lonely. but the audience has always given me a life ever since i was 2 years old. i danced for them on the streets and they threw money and i said "i'm home." it's nice to be back. >> what do you think your public reputation is now? >> my public reputation? i've been traveling around the country for a long time because i was kind of -- after the trial, i was a nervous breakdown. and if anybody in my life -- i didn't have anybody in my life, but if anybody loved me, they would have taken me to hawaii and laid me down in the sand. but there wasn't anybody, so i just got in the car and drove around, living on twinkies and wonderbread and grew a beard and walked into the poolroom to shoot some 9-ball and stuff like that. but the fans have never, ever, ever left me. >> yo

and i was in so much pain, and i carried this silently around and i was looking for a pain release. and people used to say that you use drugs because you have all this stuff inside and so the drugs took away the pain. but then it started taking away everything else and it just led to this whole cycle... years of deterioration for me. i was involved in the cycle for a long time. >> narrator: it was during those years that jesse contracted hiv. at the same time in the '80s, drug use in cities like oakland had become its own epidemic. >> and this is a local area where folks come and hang out. little drug use goes on here. intravenous drug use. smoking the crack. a lot of the sex workers come here also. my name is willie dudley, i'm a recovering addict. i have 11 years clean. i have a different life now. i can see life through life's terms. so, not that i don't think about it, 'cause there were some good times with the drugs now, there was good times. there was more bad times. which led me to get various things such as herpes... hiv. >> narrator: back when willie was infected, hiv was sp

i had family support. and when i went to college, and, you know, doors lose on you when you have a recd. but if you have a college degree, some doors open. more importantly, you give yourself time while you're in school to do other things to do other things to balance out the crimes you've committed. i hardest thing for me, maybe, has been deal with having the connection to the past. still having the connection to the system. and how best to do something for myself and my family and people who i do care about who are still in prison. and be able to have a conversation in a way that i'm able to admit i have been guilty and i know there are others who have guilty. but it's not a condition to have a drain on a nation's resources. and in a sort of try to have the argument. but yeah, like i said, thank you for coming. it's been a pleasure. and it's been real. i want to ask you one last question, we have a couple of minutes. but right now you have an audience here. they seem to be captain captivated -- looking beyon

i can ask some friends. and see if i can help her in that way. >> accounted quickly 16 calls to and from new on the roster that you were shown up until 4:14 p.m. and 30 calls between 5 -- 5:12 a.m. anp.m. and 7:00. what was your mood and state of mind? >> it was very stressful day. i am at home telecommuting and it was very stressful and i know that to -- that ileana wanted to get hold of ross and communicate. it was very stressful. and strange. being thrust into some -- with someone i do not know who is on the phone who that is. and wanting the best for them and making sure that she was taken care of and she was ok. >> i will give you two words, connecting, helping them communicate. another is problem-solving. as one or the other were both describe what you are trying to do or is there a better term for it? >> i think support. emotional support is what i saw that i was trying to do when she had reached out to me. and referrals, if she needed them but she did not seem like she needed them. she said she did not n

i talked with my dad, i think, and then i was doing all these things at home, and i totally forgot to go back to ivory. so she -- she text me at 11:45 that she finished her calls. and turns out my call, i told her -- that she had an appointment at 12:30 or something like that, by phone. and then i remember i didn't get back to ivory. so i said i just want to let her know i'm not going to call the police. >> and that's after you spoke with your father and ms. peralta haynes? >> yes. >> did you speak with ms. peralta haynes before your father that day? >> i do not remember. >> did you definitely speak with your father that morning? >> i actually, i think i did. in your declaration at paragraph 13, you write that you sponleded to ivory, and i'm quoting, very briefly and not as nicely as usual because i realized ivory was calling ross' enemies against my wishes. what brought you to the realization that as of 12-24 on the fourth ms. madison was calling your husband's enemies against your wishes? >> in our conversation on january 4 when she was trying to convince me to call the police, and

and i saw this and i thought, what would archeologists think if they encountered this? they would look at this and say, what civilization was this? what religion drove them to do this? we keep doing the same things over and over again. many researchers believe these archeo-astronomical sites are very specifically designed where other researchers say it's all coincidence. but not long ago i was up at a place called chimney rock in southwest colorado. and it's over 8,000 feet. and you are up at the southern end ftd rocky mountains and there is this scarp of rock that rises up probably about a thousand feet out of a valley floor and right at the tip of this scarp there are two twin towers of rock. if you get to a certain place on top of this very narrow butte, you can see between these twin towers and there happens to be a great house built between these two towers and every 18.6 years when the moon goes into its northernmost point on the horizon, it rises between those two towers. i was there at the beginning of the last 18.6 year cycle and we stood up there, probably 20 o

i think, you know, ben and i have an incredible debate and i think what i loved is, it comes through experience in both of our lives, it is not just we read this about -- chon is going through experience and ben comes from, you know, black and white, and that's why there are some scenes in the car, after we get their money that i love that is just finally starting to break, you know, this relationship between these two guys and chon wants to engage, he knows it is inevitably going to come to some combative state, and. >> rose:. >> absolutely, and i think that is the beauty of these two guys going at it and it was a great debate that we have almost every day, really, you know, like when is it cogoing to come? even in the scene ther there is a subtlk where chon is looking after he asks if the envelope wants to be a little thinner. >> he looks to ben. he wants to engage, you know and it is ben that just gives him a small little -- no, not yet and you see when he starts to get the green light, chon's purpose goes -- >> rose: he lets c -- chon lets ben -- >> to hold him back. >> without a

do not remember, but i just was so panicking and i said to her, my neighbor called the police and i was -- and when i hand the phone to ivory, i was trying to someone speak in english maybe could explain better that i do not want the police involved. >> so you don't -- >> so i just say help me, help me talk with this. she called the police. >> so you don't know how long you were talking with ms. peralta haynes before you handed the phone to ms. madison? >> how long i was talking who with who? >> with ms. peralta haynes before you handed the phone to ms. madison? >> how long i was talking with ms. peralta haynes? how long it takes to say -- 30 seconds, one minute. >> ok. and what did you hear ivory madison say to ms. peralta haynes? >> i really was trying to pay attention but i couldn't understand anything ivory said. i was so shaking. >> ok. after ivory madison handed the phone back to you, what did you do? >> i do not remember exactly why i -- what i told linnette. i think i told her call ross. let him know what is happening. and goodbye. >> ok. and did you tell ivory madison tha

i was not sure about our process and how we came to the decision and i was not ready yet and i had stated that. but today, even telling the community, they would ask me, do you like him yet and it was not so much about that. it was, this is our superintendent and this is the gentleman i have to work with and i have to work with him with the community as well. i have to tell you, it has been up from that moment. up and all the way. and want to thank you for your service. i know there have been lots of tensions, pushes and pulls, but that is the part of the deal. we are supposed to have that and it is healthy. there was never a time when we could not come to the table and have a discussion, whether i was fighting for my committee or on the side of labour and paraprofessionals, you were always able to hear me. even today. to see the walls are barer because richard is moving in and carlos is leaving. the moment of transition. i want to tell you, thank you. thank you for your service to san francisco. i appreciate you coming back here to end your career and do that well. >> congratulations on

and then i took him to square park and when i was walking up the park, i text them because i was along with theo so maybe they can bring grace to play in the animal square park and i think that was around 2:00 or 3:00 because i was in the park between -- until maybe 4:00 p.m. >> ms. lopez, i asked you how long after the fight ended that you texted mr. mertens. >> and i was telling you the things i was doing. maybe you have the record. >> you don't know how long after the fight? >> no, we drive to the lunch, we come back, and then i make lunch, i feed him, maybe he went to the bathroom and i tried to put him down. maybe that took one hour, one hour and a half. >> so it was an hour to an hour and a half after the fight ended that you texted mr. mertens? >> yes, when we were walking to animal square park. >> on january 31st. >> this is yours? >> ok, sorry. >> on january 1, you went over to ivory madison's home? >> january 1? >> yes. >> yes. >> and you told ivory madison what your husband did on december 31? >> yes. >> did you tell ivory madison the truth about what happened on december 31

i came home and i walked in or she opened the door and we had a talk. had calmed down, too. she's like, i love you. you're all i have left too. i said what are we going to do? at that time, she told me, be a kid. it was a mixture of two things. it was a level of apprehension to let go of what i knew to be what my parents wanted to do. but it was also cathartic, because i let everything out. i didn't have to worry about where the next rent payment was going on or who was going to cook dinner. i didn't have to worry about taking care of the house. i could go to school, have some fun with friends. i could actually live a life as a child again. for moments like that, i really loved my sister. i guess it was almost a transference. because that one time it was always my father i focused on my father making him happy. after he passed away i did everything to make my mother happy. after her passing, there was a void there and catherine was there to fill it. [ male announcer ] this is anna, her long day teaching the perfect swing begins with back pain and a choic

i turned to the wall and i just -- [ bleep ] my hand. like blood everywhere. >> how long ago was that? >> five weeks ago. and it is still really bad. >> mcnaughton finds other ways to take the edge off the pressures of jail. the problem is, they all violate the rules. >> we've got beer, it's all hidden somewhere. i've got like 30 cigarettes up the -- it's a party. it's a party. everybody else makes the worst hooch. i don't know why. i was taught in 2004 how to make it. and still, to this day, i make the best hooch. >> that's where we keep it because it's warm. >> like a baby. >> an incubator. >> oh, my god! that's what we call them. babies. >> tattoos is my best thing though. i give the best tattoos out of everybody. >> mcnaughton says inmates pay for the tattoos by giving her commissary items. >> unfortunately, my addiction is honey buns which is 560 calories apiece which is why i'm so overweight right now. >> mcnaughton is known for one tattoo in particular. her name. she gives to it inmates she is involved with. crystal deluna is the m

would like to see the equal protection part and i look around this room and i think there's an opportunity to come to the congress and i think there's an opportunity to get involved in farming. i look around my neighbors and where was the special program for the swedes or irish that's just been about 15 miles of me. if they didn't -- to get started farming and guess it was hard. if you can show me people are being discriminated against want to help you fix that but i don't think on the other side we get where we need to go as a nation if we set up special projects for people that are defined by race or ethnicity. i think we need to go back to martin luther king's directive which is content of character and equal opportunity. that's where i stand on this mr. tran. i didn't want to have this subject come up. i withheld some things from this committee that i think was politically appropriate to do in the necessity of moving this bill to the floor but just stepped into that pool so i would yield. as to make everybody benefits so it's not segregated just to one segment of the communi

it is constant and real. i0 years, and this is the first hotel i have been that we're in necessitates the locking of the front door 24 hours a day. despite this, we still have issues with behavior that ranges from brazen. they try to steal food from our breakfast room and hide in our stairwells. a]lvwe have in video surveillan 24 hour security, locked doors, and yet it is still an issue. e0ñt÷safety and security is constantly on my team's mines, and this will be simultaneously increasing security. this would be more eyes and ears along the van ness corridor. it would promote more businesses to come to the area. i have come here today with my team to emporia to think about this project and what it will do to revitalize the community. thank you. >> thank you, members of the board of supervisors. my name is drew. i just graduated from school a few weeksó+ç ago and have livedn the van ness corridor for several years. i am here in support of the rebuilding plan and to express the feelings of the 14-year-old on the s

thank you, i am so happy to hear that, and i knew that you had just a great spirit and i know you have our stop, and heading past the house, and the taxpayer that they haven't taxed. and i guess that i'm -- [ indiscernible ] >> i'm going to split them all and you can count on that, and i will do my best. i would like to have you all's help and i never needed it more than i do now. feel free to call on me for anything. >> thank you so much, martin. >> call me when you're here next time. >> i certainly will. >> and any suggestions you have bring them. >> i certainly will. >> all men are created equal is an inherent part of the american creed. by working with martin luther king and others toward the civil rights acts of 1964 and 1968, the voting rights act of 1965 and other civil rights measures, lbj, more than any other president helped to fulfill the promise of equal rights for all americans. that legislation came at a cost when johnson's friend and mentor, democratic senator richard russell of georgia warned him the passage of the civil rights act of 1964 would result in the democratic

and positivity? i think people that are old and have experience, you can learn a lot from them, and there are maybe sometimes more sweet than the grandparents. i think age also is something important. i remember, i wanted to do what a collection one time with only old people, and they told me not to do that because we do not like to see ourselves projected as old. and i did not do it. sometimes i did not listen, but at the moment, i knew i had to do some testing, and i had to show the beauty through the edge, so i will do it one time. maybe it will be my last collection. i will be part of the show, and i will walk. >> your final question comes from a twitter question. what advice do you have for young artists and designers to be successful in the world with so much competition and talent? >> i do not like to give advice. i know only my passion. what i can say is if you truly love fashion, you want to do a profession with fashion, you see -- they will find solutions. the things in fashion is to be right

i am a homeowner and a coach. i want to & francisco and golden gate park. -- to improve the san francisco and golden gate park. there was a cleanup day. i have my kids volunteer. we went to the beach l.a. fields. they are supposed to be used for soccer. they're not a meadow. there were once that no one wants to use because they're in such poor shape. other things is san francisco need more quality fields and over the years, four years ago, we came -- before this case -- became an issue, we said the fields are so bad, every game i was pulling kids off the field because they were getting into ruts and holes. i brought buckets of dirt to fill the holes before the game. the fields because of overuse, because of bad soil, or because of the weather, grass fields are difficult to keep up in san francisco. thank you. i hope you vote in favor of the project. president chiu: thank you. next speaker, please. >> hi, i am halya and i play for evolution. i think i should -- i support beach soccer. kids need more turf fields to p

i don't know that. and also to, i think there was a desire that i had and i thought the reader would have to put yourself in this person's shoes and to feel and to imagine. and there is a power and not. i know that i can't know. there is a power in not knowing, too. actually feel like there's things we will never know, but i think it was thought they wanted to be very careful about what i could say but i couldn't say and also wanted to bring people to that place. >> the power of not knowing or not attempting to say with certainty i think it's reflective of what makes history history and not a social science social science report. there's very few statistics. as demographics about the migration in chicago and other places, that's what makes it so exciting. but their sound indeterminacy. there are spaces we have to imagine what actually happened. so i want to applaud you for writing as an historian as opposed to soone who could only state they that were matched by a circus or inherent to evidence. >> sometime

i&m s an of the quarter and also a documentary filmmaker. i fully, fully support the plan to rebuild here because i think it will inject the community with commerce and with energy and with hope, and it would really be a big blessing to our community. as it stands, the proposed site has been vacant for many years, and walking up band -- up and down there in the middle of the night or even in the middle of the day, it is edible sketchy and nerve-racking, and it would be wonderful if we had the presence of a hospital there, and many people have made comments about concerned they are about housing and affordable housing and about transport, and those things, they matter to all of us, and i do not like being stuck in traffic either, and i do not foresee a problem with traffic, but even if thererúk to be a little problem with traffic, i think the benefit of outweighs any traffic concern. bank you. chair mar: wjohuthank you. >> i am here for a business owner who had to go. i cannot overstate the positive impact this project would have on both busin

when the sun was about to come down and i open the window they said, we want to talk to you, and i said? they had to show me the bad, and i said, no, thank you. they wanted to come into my house and start talking to me. >> it made me feel unsafe. it made me feel very stress. >> were you concerned about how that might affect your health and that of your baby? >> my healbaby was the most important. i always wanted to cooperate. i never wanted to not cooperate, but the way they were harassing me, it was very stressful. >> you alsoge3el questions about your loyalty as the campaign manager for ross mirkarimi. >> yes. >> i think you testified you felt like in order to be a campaign manager you had to believe in what they stood for it? >> that is right. >> why was it you agreed to become the campaign manager for cross mirkarimi and? >> i really believe in what he wanted to do. i believe he had a track record. sometimes candidates can say a lot of things, and it can sound great, but i want to know what you have done to make it happen. what is your track record? ox5áypross mirkarimi had a trak