jamila bey has a question for you. >> thank you for being with us this morning. >> sure. >> i wonderg in your state unfair debt practices against these agencies that are going after your -- you know, your constituents there. that's part one of the question. part two is can you look at any cases where family courts have had to be involved because perhaps a single parent has been arrested because of a debt? >> both great questions. the answer is yes. in fact, this isn't a surprise. because of the collapse in the economy and the high unemployment rates, we've really seen an enormous explosion in what we refer to as debt-related consumer fraud complaints in the last four years. in fact, they're the number one category of consumer complaints we receive at this point. we're getting about 25,000 consumer fraud complaints a year. the actual number of complaints against debt collection agencies is right around 1,200 a year, and we have filed several lawsuits against very aggressive debt collectors that even are doing things that are illegal, that are short of what we've been talking about abo

. >>> joining us at the table now is jamila bey, voice of "she the people," karl smith and aie lowreyomic policy reporter at "the new york times" joining us for first time. it's a great pleasure to have you here. >> thanks for having me. >> i want to talk just about the politics of the jobs numbers and the conversation that we're having, and i think these -- you know, obviously this is a layup for mitt romney. jobs numbers come out, they're, you know, worse than expectations or they're not particularly wonderful in terms of getting to full employment. he, you know, gets in front of the microphone and blasts the president. the president's story -- and, jared, you were there in the depths of the crisis is that, you know, things were going really badly, and then we've turned things around and they're not great now but we're headed in the right direction. there's this great piece of tape, american patch. we found it on mitt romney in 2006 when he talks about his jobs record. look at this. >> you're bright enough to talk about numbers. i came in and the jobs numbers fell off like a cliff.