labovitz, was sort of a leading figure there. and we divided people among these various task forces. i was sort of over all the task forces in effect. they didn't sort of directly report to me. it was not all that hierarchical, you know. i was sort of in charge in my mind of it the factual investigation. i would work with each of the task forces to some extent and then when the tapes came in later on, i was sort of in overall charge as least as i remember it. other people can remember it differently but i do remember it. in dealing with the tapes in having the tapes transcribed, analyzing the tapes and deciding how we're going to use the tapes. so that was sort of my role. and then i was going to be -- in charge is too strong a term as if i'm the only person, i'm not the only person, but i was one of the key people because there wasn't a lot of trial lawyers there. so then i was going to be in charge. again i use that word. i was going to have a very important role, let me put it like that, in planning the trial in the senate. yo

labovitz i think was one of the key people who wrote that memo, the grounds for impeachment memo. i think hillary helped on it, too, on that memo. but that's the conclusion we reached at the time. and i think that's the conclusion that's still correct. >> since you oversaw as much as a kibitzer as a supervisor of the task forces tell us how you came to conclude how to present the information to the committee. you had an enormous amount of information. >> yeah. well, this was -- here i give most of the credit not to myself because i don't deserve the credit but to doar. this is an interesting problem. doar -- well, look. the thing really took off after we got the tapes. we realized the stuff on the tapes was very powerful. and, of course, you had the 18-minute gap and all those issues. doar was the one who decided that we're going to present this in a sort of low-key, neutral fashion, she is sort of statements of facts, whatever we call them at the time. i haven't refreshed myself on this and these books that were given with listing fact after fact after fact. statements of informa