now, when you spoke with linnette peralta haynes, did you discuss your husband's childhood? >> i mentioned that. >> now, in either of the calls that you had with linnette peralta haynes in the 4:00 to 4:15 time frame, did you share your feelings with ms. haynes about the fact there was now a police investigation of what your husband had done to you on the 31st? [discussion with interpreter] >> i'll say it another way. >> rephrase, yes. >> in the phone calls around ms. her alta haynes around 4ing -- ms. peralta haynes around 4:00 p.m. in the afternoon, did you ask her for advice about how to stop the police investigation? >> the only thing i remember -- i do not remember what we were talking about. i just remember maybe saying how could this happen, oh, my gosh, what are we going to do? this is a disaster, how she could do that. when you're panicking, these are the kind of things you said. you cannot be -- you feel betrayed. i was feeling betrayed and was so angry. >> did you discuss with ms. peralta haynes what you should do with regard to telling ms. madison what you wanted

well, i'm not sure was january or february. >> did you hear how linnette peralta haynes -- did you hear linnette peralta haynes' testimony last night about what those text messages said? >> the first three ones, are you talking about the first three ones? yes. >> ok. what were those text messages about that you sent to linnette peralta haynes? >> i do not remember exactly but after ivory told me all this about you can accuse him of domestic violence, that was phil brownstein did with sharon stone so he got the custody and she brought all this about the police and she also brought this person, she want to bring all this persons at her home and i was asking all that questions and she she was repeating you have to accuse him of domestic violence. >> ms. lopez, i'm going to have to stop you now. >> is why i called her. >> i know it's traditional to wait until the witness finishes answering to move to strike but i don't want to take all night to do this. chairperson hur: let's hold on one second. can i have the question back, please? [the court reporter read the question back] chairperson hu

now, when you spoke with linnette peralta haynes, did you discuss your husband's childhood? >> i mentioned that. >> now, in either of the calls that you had with linnette peralta haynes in the 4:00 to 4:15 time frame, did you share your feelings with ms. haynes about the fact there was now a police investigation of what your husband had done to you on the 31st? [discussion with interpreter] >> i'll say it another way. >> rephrase, yes. >> in the phone calls around ms. her alta haynes around 4ing -- ms. peralta haynes around 4:00 p.m. in the afternoon, did 4:00 p.m. in the afternoon, did you ask her for advice about

generally. >> now sheriff, earlier we discussed whether you had ever referred to linnette peralta haynes as a domestic violence advocate. you said you had never personally described ms. peralta haynes that way. >> i don't believe so i had. i believe i knew that was in her background, but that was not her relationship with me. >> ok. now this text message from ms. peralta haynes at 3:53 p.m. says, i need to talk to you to protect you. call me. >> do domestic violence advocates usually protect the frarptse or victims of the violence? >> objection. >> objection sustained. there's no foundation. >> so sheriff you are aware of the portrayal of ms. linnette peralta haynes as a domestic violence advocate. >> i have heard of the references. >> but to you she's a political consultant. >> i think you've established that fact. >> now sheriff, if we look further in exhibit 3, -- in exhibit 83. if you look on page three. we see a text message from your wife to you at 4:18 p.m. in the afternoon. stating call me, it is an emergency. do you see that? >> i do. >> do you recall receiving that text message

>> i do. >> you sent that message to linnette peralta haynes on january 12? >> yes, in response to her message. party were concerned you were being treated as guilty until -- >> you were concerned retreated as guilty until proven innocent. >> objection. >> i am not sure i do either. this exhibit stipulated, it is in evidence. i will let him ask it. i would like to get to the point. you may answer the question. >> yes, because this is before i was charged in the process had been folded yet. >> but you knew at the time is a text message unit injured your wife? -- but you at the time you send the text message that you had injured your wife? >> yes. >> you told us last night you committed a crime on december 31. >> objection. >> sustained. >> your reference here -- you reference here political forces at work. >> yes. >> ok. you felt there were political forces at work to prosecute you. >> objection. >> getting close, mr. keith. what is your point? you may answer. >> i am speculating, yes. >> >> now, sheriff, can you turn to a text message further in, still on jan

in the days leading up to january 13, you had a number of calls with linnette peralta haynes? >> yes. >> you had a number of meetings with her in those days? >> i do not recall how many meetings, not many. >> ok. >> ended you have discussions about what kind of message he wanted to be sending to the media? about what happened on december 31 and what charges might arrive from it? >> i believe that conversation came up. >> you had those conversations with your political advisers? >> volunteers, advisors, people were coming to me making suggestions. >> you had those conversations about immediate strategy with linnette peralta haynes? >> she was making suggestions or texting me suggestions. >> who else was involved in developing a media strategy in response to the potential for criminal charges? >> there was not much of the media strategy, but people who participated were jim stearns, the consultant hired during my campaign for sheriff and my attorney, bob wagner. >> now sheriff, there is an exhibit, exhibit 81. can you turn to that exhibit? >> yes. >> you gave a one-hour time est

>> i do. >> you sent that message to linnette peralta haynes on january 12? >> yes, in response to her message. party were concerned you were being treated as guilty until -- >> you were concerned retreated as guilty until proven innocent. >> objection. >> i am not sure i do either. this exhibit stipulated, it is in evidence. i will let him ask it. i would like to get to the point. you may answer the question. >> yes, because this is before i was charged in the process had been folded yet. >> but you knew at the time is a text message unit injured your wife? -- but you at the time you send the text message that you had injured your wife? >> yes.

linnette peralta haynes was a recommendation as i was on my way to the lafco event with an attorney but i was already terribly late for that event. >> ok. and then the next part of this passage after the part that says they made a couple calls to find an attorney. the next part is, and he said lopezed that idea of having their friend, linnette peralta haynes a domestical violence advocate with the our family coalition to reach out the madison about why she had gone to police and what could be done at that point. is that accurate? >> not entirely, no. it's not. >> how is it inaccurate? >> that i only had learned later in the day when my wife, eliana had informed me of her conversations between she and linnette, and their contact then with the next door neighbor. >> and did your wife have the idea of having linnette peralta haynes contact ivory madison? >> i am not sure about that. ifs that the case, that is something that my wife had simply exchanged with ms. haynes, but i don't know. >> so did you have any part in the decision to call ivory madison? >> not at all. >> ok. so to the stern

sheriff, was that 12:03 text message to ask what happened with your wife and linnette peralta haynes? >> objection. asked and answered. >> overruled. >> no. i do not believe it is. >> and if we look at the next exhibit after the 12:03 text message asking your wife what happened, we see a 12:24 p.m., 21 minutes later a text message from your wife to ivory madison saying she is not going to call police, she is going to open a record with her doctor. >> i see that, yes. >> ok. >> and it's your -- there's no connection between text message to your wife and -- >> no. >> all right. sheriff let's go back to where we left off on january 4. you told us after your bridge et committee meeting, you were moving from office to office from your supervisoral office to the sheriff's office. did you go home after that move? >> i quickly went home to grab -- i'm trying to recall what time of the day. but i went home to grab some papers and then just left. >> ok. so when you went home, did you go out to the back steps area of your house? >> i did. the back door was open. >> ok. >> and what did you see on

. >> this is a text message you sent to linnette peralta haynes? >> yes. >> in this text message, you say this is a political witch hunt. what did you mean when you said a loud drumbeat needs to vibe? >> overruled. >> that our messaging needs to get out. concerns exchanged between miss haynes and myself was that we had been quiet. >> in the message that was sent out, this was all political. >> it appeared, yes. >> i am asking you, what message did you intend to send out on january 12? what message did you say you wanted to send out on january 12? >> in response, what i said. the vibe that needs to vibe that this is a witch hunt. >> you wanted this to be the media strategy. >> objection. >> i think it has been answered. sustained. >> ok. >> sheriff, he knew at the time is as message that he had injured your wife on december 31. >> objection. >> i think it is foundational. overruled. >> yes. >> you knew you had committed a crime? >> yes. >> whose political witch hunt was it? >> objection. >> who was behind it? >> could you withdraw the question and s

answer linnette call, she has some advises. did ms. peralta haynes advise you not to write anything about what was going on? >> i think this is -- tell me which time again? >> this was a message that was sent at 6:05. >> i recall to -- because that was from my brother in venezuela. he said you should close -- say i told him what was happening and he told me close the facebook page, don't write anything. and don't talk anymore by phone because maybe they are listening. >> ok. so you sent this text message in response to getting that call -- to getting that advice from your brother? >> yes. and it -- >> did you actually speak with your brother on the phone? >> i don't remember if i did by phone or through skype. but i got that from my brother. and also, i was talking with linnette and linnette said, i have to talk with ross and he's not answering my phone calls. so i text him, answer linnette calls. >> did you send this text while you were talking with your brother? >> you know, i do not remember. at that point i was already with theo because i pick hi

did you give linnette peralta haynes direction to send out this vibe as a political witch hunt? >> a few more questions, but we're getting off the subject. >> no. >> did you send me to tell anybody to send out the -- did you tell anybody to send out the vibe this was a political witch hunt? >> it was just an exchange. >> you exchange text messages with linnette peralta haynes about a matter of media strategy. did you take any action to implement that media strategy? >> no. >> did anybody take any action to implement that media strategy? >> objection. >> sustained. >> let me put it this way, if anybody took steps to implement that media strategy, you do not know about it? >> objection. >> sustained. >> sheriff, at one point you met with members of the deputy sheriffs association to discuss the charges against you? >> yes. >> what did you tell them in the meeting? >> i do not recall word for word, but explaining to them the situation so that they would be aware i was still able and capable and that the sheriff's department would continue to run well. >> the deputy sheriffs associa