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nixon. he was blind by then. the first negotiation, bill is working things out with the guys. we're going to have a mammoth ceremony, the chieftain will be in garb and we'll roast a goat. and we'll give the president the eyes of the goat to eat. guys can do this, instead of her eating the eyes of the goat, can't she like dance or something, you know, to show her appreciation. so she wound up dancing also with the native customs in ghana. the ceremony was incredible, like you see in the old movies. everyone is carrying in of the subchieftains, nfc, one subchieftain they're carrying in, about a 300-pound white redhead. her irs get big. evidently, he had inherited the land. he wouldn't give it up. his father was a farmer. >> on that visit to ghana in '57, i think it was chief dan, i think was his name, that was the first time that my father met martin luther king jr. because he was at the inauguration. >> right. he was there. >> the independence day, independence from britain. that's when my fa
nixon. he was blind by then. the first negotiation, bill is working things out with the guys. we're going to have a mammoth ceremony, the chieftain will be in garb and we'll roast a goat. and we'll give the president the eyes of the goat to eat. guys can do this, instead of her eating the eyes of the goat, can't she like dance or something, you know, to show her appreciation. so she wound up dancing also with the native customs in ghana. the ceremony was incredible, like you see in the old...
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. >>> to mark the 100th anniversary of first lady pat nixon's birth, the richard nixon foundation and the national archives posted a discussion of her diplomatic work of an ambassador of good will. pat nixon traveled to more than 75 countries during her time in the white house. her daughter, julie nixon eisenhower, offers her own recollections and insights. this program is about 90 minutes. >> good evening. i'm from the archives of the united states and it's a pleasure to well i don't mean you to william g. mcgowan theater this evening. we are celebrating first lady, pat nixon. and a special welcome to the c-span audience. before we begin, i would like to tell you about two programs coming up later this month. on wednesday, april 18th, we'll have a special discussion on slavery freedom to observe the 150th anniversary of the d.c. emancipation. the next week on monday, april 23rd, we'll host a nipgs nixon legacy forum called wages peace, nixon and politics in the middle east. to learn more about these and all our programs and exhibits, consult the monthly calendar of events and there a
. >>> to mark the 100th anniversary of first lady pat nixon's birth, the richard nixon foundation and the national archives posted a discussion of her diplomatic work of an ambassador of good will. pat nixon traveled to more than 75 countries during her time in the white house. her daughter, julie nixon eisenhower, offers her own recollections and insights. this program is about 90 minutes. >> good evening. i'm from the archives of the united states and it's a pleasure to well i...
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nixon in 1957. but that was the trip that we went to to commemorate the ghana becoming a nation instead of a colony of great britain. and we went through a great deal ceremony there. but then we went on up to liberia, which i don't care to return to. but the amazing thing about it was that that place is just terrible. the heat and and all that goes with it. the humidity. strangely enough, pat never showed it. by the time we got there i was fairly well acquainted with her. we made a lot of side trips because the vice president was going one way, and we were going the other. he was going to some of the diplomatic pass. but we went to the schools, to the hospitals, and the people just loved her because she didn't go through as -- visit. she was talking to the people in the bed. she was talking to the kids. she loved the children, and they responded to her. the one thing that was a little tough is when we went down to the market. the farmer's market. it was about, i would say, maybe a half mile of farm
nixon in 1957. but that was the trip that we went to to commemorate the ghana becoming a nation instead of a colony of great britain. and we went through a great deal ceremony there. but then we went on up to liberia, which i don't care to return to. but the amazing thing about it was that that place is just terrible. the heat and and all that goes with it. the humidity. strangely enough, pat never showed it. by the time we got there i was fairly well acquainted with her. we made a lot of side...
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nixon there. rather embarrassing, but it was quite interesting. >> now, in getting ready to go on the trips, before you would go on that, such as that or other trips, how was plsz nixon in planning what the itinerary would be? >> well, of course, they invited president nixon, and he couldn't make it, so he sent his best representative. and the way they planned it, what's important. what parts of the world they have to go. and from there we then -- after liberia, we then went to ghana. >> i hate to interrupt you. but you've got pictures on that coming up. but if you could just talk a little bit about what her involvement would be in planning these trips, and making sure she was doing the sorts of things that she was -- that she felt were important in these various countries. would you meet with her beforehand? >> of course, she was very conscious of a large entourage. we only had ten people who came over to liberia and ghana, although some others came in after that. but she insisted that we don't n
nixon there. rather embarrassing, but it was quite interesting. >> now, in getting ready to go on the trips, before you would go on that, such as that or other trips, how was plsz nixon in planning what the itinerary would be? >> well, of course, they invited president nixon, and he couldn't make it, so he sent his best representative. and the way they planned it, what's important. what parts of the world they have to go. and from there we then -- after liberia, we then went to...
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nixon's trip to china. you know, most of the diplomats and foreign policy analysts and academics all think the most important thing to come out of that visit was the shanghai communique. i think if you remember most americans -- if you ask most americans what they remember about that trip to china, two words -- giant pandas. those giant pandas that came to the zoo in 1972 came there because of pat nixon. julie, how did your mother score two giant pandas from the chinese? >> well, it was one of the banquets, and my mother was seated next to joanneli. i actually brought this. the chinese they were heavy smokers. there was a silhouette of panda cigarettes. they were making conversation. she thought he was very intellectual. she enjoyed meeting and talking with him. at one point, she put her hand out and pointed to the cigarettes and said, they're so adorable, i love them. he said, i'll give you some. my mother said, cigarettes? he said, no, pandas. that was the beginning of the whole thing of giving the americ
nixon's trip to china. you know, most of the diplomats and foreign policy analysts and academics all think the most important thing to come out of that visit was the shanghai communique. i think if you remember most americans -- if you ask most americans what they remember about that trip to china, two words -- giant pandas. those giant pandas that came to the zoo in 1972 came there because of pat nixon. julie, how did your mother score two giant pandas from the chinese? >> well, it was...
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it was about nixon. >> that's true. we should answer the question about -- we should be accountable. >> yes. >> when we wrote "all the president's men," we sat down and said we went to grand jurors. we need to acknowledge that. carl got phone records from private people. we need to acknowledge that. we need to acknowledge and deal with the genuine emotions when we screwed up on the haldeman story, so on and so forth. we should have no objection to people saying how many deep throats there were. happily seven years ago, mark feld, on his own, decided to come out and unmask himself. that day, carl and i were in the newsroom and bradley and len downey are saying, you've got to confirm it. and we weren't worried that he's being taken advantage of. he's over 90, dementia. they're saying, looks this is reality. we need to confirm it and disclose it. we did. happily, then people started checking and felt wrote another book with his lawyer and so forth. all the details are laid out. so there's not a mystery about this. quite fr
it was about nixon. >> that's true. we should answer the question about -- we should be accountable. >> yes. >> when we wrote "all the president's men," we sat down and said we went to grand jurors. we need to acknowledge that. carl got phone records from private people. we need to acknowledge that. we need to acknowledge and deal with the genuine emotions when we screwed up on the haldeman story, so on and so forth. we should have no objection to people saying how...
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nixon. starting at 8:00 eastern, francis o'brien, chief of staff to congressman rudino, chairman of the judiciary committee in 1984. at 10:00 eastern, bnard nussbaum, senior member of the house judiciary committee staff. american history tv in primetime all this week on c-span3. >>> next, author max holland discusses his book, "leak: why mark felt became deep throat." mr. felt was the fbi assistant director who shared leaked watergate information with reporters including bob woodward and carl bernstein. in his book, mr. holland argues that mark felt sellishly used journalists to discredit editor l. patrick gray and that nixon's resignation was an unintended consequence. the kansas city public library hosted this hour-long event. >> well, good evening. [ applause ] welcome to the kansas city public library. i'm director of public affairs, and let me come clean right now -- a recovering watergate junkie. [ laughter ] >> it's all true. i have suffered from watergate on the brain for many years.
nixon. starting at 8:00 eastern, francis o'brien, chief of staff to congressman rudino, chairman of the judiciary committee in 1984. at 10:00 eastern, bnard nussbaum, senior member of the house judiciary committee staff. american history tv in primetime all this week on c-span3. >>> next, author max holland discusses his book, "leak: why mark felt became deep throat." mr. felt was the fbi assistant director who shared leaked watergate information with reporters including bob...
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richard nixon on the left, that some are nixon was giving a big speech about hoover. we really wanted to do is meet with reagan. reagan was actively seeking the 1968 nomination. he is beginning to contest some primaries and pick up delegates. he has the right wing of the republican party completely won over. he has people like william buckley saying there's no one else to vote for it except for ronald reagan. here is dick nixon thought he would have a chance. this combination and this newcomer from telephone now, who he had met just to go in 1947 when he was a young congressman. they had known each other for a long time. they had correspondents are much of the 1960s. by this time, they are on opposite sides. as we found throughout the story, these men would be friends, sometimes rivals long before either of them would reach the oval office. this is a picture, and most people probably cannot recollect the time -- but it was right after nixon sort of made his comeback after watergate. reagan as president. there is a great story between the two of them. he is giving him
richard nixon on the left, that some are nixon was giving a big speech about hoover. we really wanted to do is meet with reagan. reagan was actively seeking the 1968 nomination. he is beginning to contest some primaries and pick up delegates. he has the right wing of the republican party completely won over. he has people like william buckley saying there's no one else to vote for it except for ronald reagan. here is dick nixon thought he would have a chance. this combination and this newcomer...
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you go to the nixon library in california. they have little dollhouse mock-up of the oval office and it says press a button and a red light will go on, where each microphone was in the oval office. you press it. and you almost jump back. >> that's right. >> because there are five microphones on the desk. there are microphones in the chandeliers. and, you know, who is -- who is thinking? i mean, you know, carl and i have often talked about if there was one good lawyer, one strong lawyer who knew early on about some of this stuff might have gone to the president and said stop this. it's against the law. you don't need to do this. the fact that there was no one in the white house or in the nixon circle who had that world view or had that authority tells you about how he fed and controlled all of this himself. >> and everybody fed his own diabolicalism. >> that's what they said about bring me the dead mouse. the discussions with coleson on those tapes and then you hear nixon say in the presence of very close guys to the top in the
you go to the nixon library in california. they have little dollhouse mock-up of the oval office and it says press a button and a red light will go on, where each microphone was in the oval office. you press it. and you almost jump back. >> that's right. >> because there are five microphones on the desk. there are microphones in the chandeliers. and, you know, who is -- who is thinking? i mean, you know, carl and i have often talked about if there was one good lawyer, one strong...
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you can get them from the nixon library. they belong to the american people, thank goodness, and they are an extraordinary record of presidential abuses of power and some good presidential things, too. in retrospect, to what extent does this experience of investigating a cover-up hold any lessons for us today? anything to learn from it today? >> oh, gosh, that's a broad one. a cover-up in general of any kind? i guess what keeps repeating itself, i suppose, in my private work in this magnified about 10 million times is the adages about human nature, the nature of power and how it does tend to corrupt, and so you're not really surprised at much you hear. if you've been in the courtroom for a good while, or if you've lived a good while, you know that people are capable of lots of things, even pretty good people are capable of bad things. especially if they have some kind of a justification for it. if they feel like there is a higher good. and what we see here, i think, and watergate is taken literally to the presidential level.
you can get them from the nixon library. they belong to the american people, thank goodness, and they are an extraordinary record of presidential abuses of power and some good presidential things, too. in retrospect, to what extent does this experience of investigating a cover-up hold any lessons for us today? anything to learn from it today? >> oh, gosh, that's a broad one. a cover-up in general of any kind? i guess what keeps repeating itself, i suppose, in my private work in this...
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richard nixon. after nixon was pardoned, nixon went on an upstaging trip to china right near the new hampshire primary. ford was put in a position to having to defend the guy who had once again embarrassed him. >> he's going under the guidelines. >> you see no complications to foreign policy in his trip? >> none, whatsoever. chris: i remember reading that. he showed off, getting all the press attention, national news. at the very moment jerry ford was trying to run for president. >> at the same time jerry ford never apologized for the pardon. he knew exactly, you know, how damaging it was to him politically and the thing he was proudest of that caroline and ted kennedy gave him the profile and courage award for having pardoned richard nixon. you know there was a lot of deep resentment over that trip. chris: he was out secretly giving advice to ronald reagan in began's first race for the presidency. >> one of the thing that impresses me in mike's book in addition to the general brillian is what you s
richard nixon. after nixon was pardoned, nixon went on an upstaging trip to china right near the new hampshire primary. ford was put in a position to having to defend the guy who had once again embarrassed him. >> he's going under the guidelines. >> you see no complications to foreign policy in his trip? >> none, whatsoever. chris: i remember reading that. he showed off, getting all the press attention, national news. at the very moment jerry ford was trying to run for...
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after all, the nixon library is the custodian of the famous nixon tapes and those really lay out a lot of the detail of watergate in addition to other important activities of the nixon administration. and, of course, we have documents. it is estimated the nixon library has 42 million. and we have the documents of the watergate special prosecution forces in the national archives in washington, d.c. we wanted all of that material where relevant to be accessible to you as you make up your mind about watergate and its implications. so let's start with the timeline. it is divided up into five sections. as i thought about -- i'm director, but i was curator of this exhibit so i had to as a historian conceptualize how it would be. if you think about the evolution of what would become watergate, you have to understand why the president would make the decision to cover up a break-in that occurred at the democratic national headquarters in june of 1972. although there is no evidence that president nixon knew in advance that this break-in would occur, the operatives were paid by the committee to r
after all, the nixon library is the custodian of the famous nixon tapes and those really lay out a lot of the detail of watergate in addition to other important activities of the nixon administration. and, of course, we have documents. it is estimated the nixon library has 42 million. and we have the documents of the watergate special prosecution forces in the national archives in washington, d.c. we wanted all of that material where relevant to be accessible to you as you make up your mind...
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coming next weekend, oral history on watergate and president nixon. you'll hear about the supervisor of young lawyers wanting to impeach president nixon. one of the lawyers working on it was hillary rodham, future secretary of state. watch oral histories every weekend here on cspan-3. >>> with white house officials and reporters who first broke the story of watergate, we begin with the story about the investigation and the cover-up with former white house counsel john dean and senate watergate committee counsel fred thompson. from the watergate office building, this is about 45 minutes. >>> good evening, everyone, and welcome. i'm mary jordan. i'm the editor of "washington post" live which is division of the newspaper which organizes forums and debates. a very special thanks tonight to "washington post" chairman don graham and publisher katherine waynus, our host, and a big thank you to penzance, the owner of the -- warren is a key player in the watergate scandal. and what you're going to hear onstage, there are lots of people in the audience who loom
coming next weekend, oral history on watergate and president nixon. you'll hear about the supervisor of young lawyers wanting to impeach president nixon. one of the lawyers working on it was hillary rodham, future secretary of state. watch oral histories every weekend here on cspan-3. >>> with white house officials and reporters who first broke the story of watergate, we begin with the story about the investigation and the cover-up with former white house counsel john dean and senate...
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nixon i said but really it's president nixon. doar and we all remember this, doar charged us all with never calling the president other than by the name than the president. not nixon and certainly not anything derogatory. he was the president. we called him the president. we were trained to call him the president, you know. and he was -- and that's a very he understood that. something i don't think i would have -- i might not have understood at the time, but of course, we understood. we called him nixon. we tried to treat him with respect and we wanted to aggressively find the facts, but as i said before, we didn't really go out and investigate. also when we started collating the facts especially when the tapes came, then yes, then we did make a determination that the proper recommendation to the committee would be to impeach the president, but we didn't start off like that. people claimed we did and a friend of doar's wrote an article, adler sort of claims he always intended to do this. i never saw that, and i don't think it's t
nixon i said but really it's president nixon. doar and we all remember this, doar charged us all with never calling the president other than by the name than the president. not nixon and certainly not anything derogatory. he was the president. we called him the president. we were trained to call him the president, you know. and he was -- and that's a very he understood that. something i don't think i would have -- i might not have understood at the time, but of course, we understood. we called...
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john dean did tell haldeman, nixon's chief of staff, and that's how nixon found out. now, the reason they didn't fire felt right away is because felt, they believe, knew too much. this is just before the election. and even after the election, watergate isn't going away, and they're worried that if felt were, let's say, transferred to butte, montana, which is hoover's favorite tactic, know that he might spill his guts on national television. so they try and tell pat gray he's not to be trusted. in fact, when nixon decides against all the odds to appoint pat gray as the permanent director, he says the first thing i want you to do is put mark felt on a lie detector, and if he fails, i want him fired. yes? >> you said about a third of the things mark told bernstein were incorrect? can you give an example, and did that have an effect on the coverage? >> at one point felt alleged that the reason john mitchell had resigned from the committee to reelect the president is because each of the top aides in the nixon white house, haldeman, ehrlichman, john mitchell, were having to
john dean did tell haldeman, nixon's chief of staff, and that's how nixon found out. now, the reason they didn't fire felt right away is because felt, they believe, knew too much. this is just before the election. and even after the election, watergate isn't going away, and they're worried that if felt were, let's say, transferred to butte, montana, which is hoover's favorite tactic, know that he might spill his guts on national television. so they try and tell pat gray he's not to be trusted....
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they're joined by former nixon administration deputy counsel eagle crow. this is half an hour. >> fred thompson has led us perfectly into our next panel, so up next we're going to talk about the legacy of watergate. and please join me in welcoming our next guest, former defense secretary bill cohen, a former retired senator from maine who, when this picture was taken, had just come from maine. he was a freshman congressman, and he landed on the hot seat of the judiciary committee. [ applause ] >> and former massachusetts governor bill wells. he's the young blond on the left of your screen. and when that photo was taken, he was the associate minority counsel on the house watergate committee. [ applause ] >> and eagle bud kroge. no, he's not the guy in the middle. he's currently a senior fellow at the center for the study of the presidency and congress. and then when he was working in the white house for president nixon, he was the co-director of the special investigations unit that we know as the plumbers. welcome. [ applause [ applause ] >>> so we're going
they're joined by former nixon administration deputy counsel eagle crow. this is half an hour. >> fred thompson has led us perfectly into our next panel, so up next we're going to talk about the legacy of watergate. and please join me in welcoming our next guest, former defense secretary bill cohen, a former retired senator from maine who, when this picture was taken, had just come from maine. he was a freshman congressman, and he landed on the hot seat of the judiciary committee. [...
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even nixon can come back.e after the presidency if you handle yourself. >> history is like one of the reasons this is all so much fun and i think so important ultimately, is remember the way the founders described i think washington described the senate as the saucer in which -- >> the tea cooled. >> the tea cooled. >> that's what history. it takes our friend michael, says a rule, you can't write about a president in full until 25 years after they leave office. again and again that's true. >> let me ask you this, mika, by the way, mika, you talked about a time that richard nixon came over to your house and you were a young woman -- >> this happened with me and joe all the time. >> yeah. ex-presidents would always come over. came over to talk to your dad and you just talked about how broken and how sad -- >> might have just been the timing but he was on a seat on our porch and it was sunset and it's just a chair in the middle of the porch and he was just sitting there. >> slumped over, beaten. >> waiting for my
even nixon can come back.e after the presidency if you handle yourself. >> history is like one of the reasons this is all so much fun and i think so important ultimately, is remember the way the founders described i think washington described the senate as the saucer in which -- >> the tea cooled. >> the tea cooled. >> that's what history. it takes our friend michael, says a rule, you can't write about a president in full until 25 years after they leave office. again and...
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john dean versus president nixon. everything will change, however, when another dramatic moment of testimony occurs before the senate. that is this testimony. rather than me say it, why don't you listen to it. >> are you aware of the installation of any listening devices of the oval office of the president? >> i was aware of listening devices. yes, sir. >> when were those devices placed in the oval office? >> that changes everything. now it is no longer a question of he said/he said, but you actually have -- potentially have evidence. you've got tapes of the president's conversations. now, this is -- this space is designed so you can move around. so i'm going to -- we are going to leave the timeline wall and i'm going to show you the taping system. because we have never had as well documented a presidency in american history and we probably will never have one as well documented. let me show you why. first of all, president nixon was not the first president to tape. franklin roosevelt was the first president to tape.
john dean versus president nixon. everything will change, however, when another dramatic moment of testimony occurs before the senate. that is this testimony. rather than me say it, why don't you listen to it. >> are you aware of the installation of any listening devices of the oval office of the president? >> i was aware of listening devices. yes, sir. >> when were those devices placed in the oval office? >> that changes everything. now it is no longer a question of he...
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-- and nixon wanted to get out of this. i didn't want to commit a crime. he wanted to get out of this situation, but if you hear and watch closely what happens during that week, nixon's concern that his friend, the personal relationship, mitchell is involved because mitchell had gone over to the committee to re-elect. he's the guy who authorized this ultimately, and nixon kept saying, did mitchell know, did mitchell know, did mitchell know? and at one point we played this tape where haldman comes in and says we should cut it off at liddy. he'll take the wrap. he'll say he authorized it, and we'll just cut it off at that point. >> mitchell. >> no, at liddy, at liddy, and let liddy take the rap, and nixon says, these are these personal relationships and how they get involved, he says i don't think we can do that because liddy will never be able to explain why he had $250,000 at his disposal. it will affect mitchell, and he can't take it now. why can't he take it now? his wife was going through a very difficult time because of
-- and nixon wanted to get out of this. i didn't want to commit a crime. he wanted to get out of this situation, but if you hear and watch closely what happens during that week, nixon's concern that his friend, the personal relationship, mitchell is involved because mitchell had gone over to the committee to re-elect. he's the guy who authorized this ultimately, and nixon kept saying, did mitchell know, did mitchell know, did mitchell know? and at one point we played this tape where haldman...
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there's no way to go back and ask richard nixon what lessons he learned. i had occasion to meet him following the impeachment process. we got along very well. i wish that he had shown the kind of serenity and tranquility that he had after the experience during the time that he was president. i think we would have had a very different result. >> he was going to win in a landslide. why did he hire you? >> well, one thing -- bill, one thing he said -- it was the last day before he got on the helicopter and he waved. he said something that is at the back of the wonderful story that bob woodward and carl bernstein's article in the post. he said there are always who hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them in return. and then you destroy yourself. i think some of those hatreds coursed through us. they were political opponents, they're adversaries, you go after them. you don't need to hate them. that triggers and brings to bear emotions and decisions that are excessive and disproportionate to what you're doing. he could have accomplished so
there's no way to go back and ask richard nixon what lessons he learned. i had occasion to meet him following the impeachment process. we got along very well. i wish that he had shown the kind of serenity and tranquility that he had after the experience during the time that he was president. i think we would have had a very different result. >> he was going to win in a landslide. why did he hire you? >> well, one thing -- bill, one thing he said -- it was the last day before he got...
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burglars working for president nixon who started it all and forever gave the suffix to every political scandal. those sixth floor offices with actually open tonight. 40 years ago they housed the democratic national committee headquarters, but tonight artist lori munn has done portraits of many of the figures, and we urge you to take a look on the way out. tonight we're going to keep the focus forward. how are watergate's lessons relevant today? it's worth remembering that while watergate was a loi poiw for the presidency, it was a high point for congress. every house in america watched 30 hours watergate hearings, 30 hours. can you imagine in the age of twitter how that would work? actually, people are probably answering that question if they hash tag watergate. okay, we're going to kick things off with a short video, then we're going to hear from a great newsman, tim lehr, author and broadcaster, but right now please watch this. >> at 10:15, there was a line of cabs and cars outside the paper and people waiting to buy the first edition. people wanted to read it at that mont >> the peo
burglars working for president nixon who started it all and forever gave the suffix to every political scandal. those sixth floor offices with actually open tonight. 40 years ago they housed the democratic national committee headquarters, but tonight artist lori munn has done portraits of many of the figures, and we urge you to take a look on the way out. tonight we're going to keep the focus forward. how are watergate's lessons relevant today? it's worth remembering that while watergate was a...
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you know, that's what i was really -- i was convinced that nixon, president nixon would never resign even, you know, and that we would have to try this case in the senate. so i was always thinking how do i try -- as i do in private practice when i have a case or i did in the u.s. attorney's office when i was a prosecutor. how do we try this case? who are we going to call? who are our witnesses? what are our documents? what are our themes? this is the kind of thing we did. my other function in connection with that, i was tasked to make a key presentation to the committee on the necessity for a third article in the article of impeachment which involved our inability to get tapes and documents directly from the white house. the tapes we got obviously were from the independent -- from the special prosecutor who received them as a result of litigation against the president in the supreme court. they refused to turn over many documents and tapes to us, and we, under my leadership here, we claimed that was in itself an impeachable offense not to cooperate with the committee and we had law g
you know, that's what i was really -- i was convinced that nixon, president nixon would never resign even, you know, and that we would have to try this case in the senate. so i was always thinking how do i try -- as i do in private practice when i have a case or i did in the u.s. attorney's office when i was a prosecutor. how do we try this case? who are we going to call? who are our witnesses? what are our documents? what are our themes? this is the kind of thing we did. my other function in...
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obviously, they ultimately vote against president nixon. it's a very slow process. >> and we talk about that. but never publicly. never to the staff. to john's staff, actually. about where we thought these people were. that was the conversation that was very deeply held. and it may have gone -- though the knowledge is it may have gone to the speaker, but he never -- i mean, we sort of knew where the case was at a certain point. >> the voting starts july 27th. that was a long time ago. now, do you think you had a majority for an article? article one? >> yes. >> did you think that a month before. >> a week before? >> i don't remember. we had talked about it as those nights approached. those days approached. he thought that the case had been made. he thought a case had been made against the president. and he thought that he was so important to the democrats that they believed that the case had been made. >> when cowen and hogan are meeting flowers, is somebody telling you about that? >> we had a good relationship. we met very long. we had a go
obviously, they ultimately vote against president nixon. it's a very slow process. >> and we talk about that. but never publicly. never to the staff. to john's staff, actually. about where we thought these people were. that was the conversation that was very deeply held. and it may have gone -- though the knowledge is it may have gone to the speaker, but he never -- i mean, we sort of knew where the case was at a certain point. >> the voting starts july 27th. that was a long time...
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john dean tells nixon there's a cancer on the presidency. these phrases and expletive deleted was another one and smoking gun. since then a lot of scandals have picked up the gate, billygate, iran-contragate. monicagate. wikipedia lists hundred gate scandals, including bart and homer simpson. so we look up to watergate to remember, people forget, for you it's all distant history. i recall the 25th anniversary there was a man on street interview in champagne, illinois where i lived and they asked the young college student what was watergate about? oh, some president resign. lyndon johnson, richard nixon, one of those two. we can laugh but it's easy to forget. a poll in germany showed that 20% of german college students do not know, had no idea what auschwitz was. the nazi death camp. they had a reason to forget. when we think of watergate as a triumph but not a blemish on our memory. time grows old teaches many lessons. time is passing what are the lessons of watergate. one of the things relate to the people involved in this conspiracy didn't
john dean tells nixon there's a cancer on the presidency. these phrases and expletive deleted was another one and smoking gun. since then a lot of scandals have picked up the gate, billygate, iran-contragate. monicagate. wikipedia lists hundred gate scandals, including bart and homer simpson. so we look up to watergate to remember, people forget, for you it's all distant history. i recall the 25th anniversary there was a man on street interview in champagne, illinois where i lived and they...
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in other words, there was pro-nixon, anti-nixon. we right in the middle of the war. i mean, there were very challenging times that were, you know, sort of the surround, coming out of the '60s and the early '70s. that's basically all i remember, sort of impressionistic from vice president agnew. >> interviews we did with former members of the white house staff, there was a sense, there was a fear in october of 1973 of a double impeachment, that both agnew and president nixon would be impeached. and carl albert would become president. >> uh-huh. uh-huh. there was a lot of that talk. but, of course, that wasn't reality. remember, the house -- the house at that time in my own experience, was very -- you had very liberal members. you had very -- members of congress that were representing feelings in parts of the country, but really strong feelings towards president nixon and vice president agnew, and clearly, there was conversations about this, but when you sort of got to the core of certain leadership in the house, including congressman rodino, the talk sort of dissipate
in other words, there was pro-nixon, anti-nixon. we right in the middle of the war. i mean, there were very challenging times that were, you know, sort of the surround, coming out of the '60s and the early '70s. that's basically all i remember, sort of impressionistic from vice president agnew. >> interviews we did with former members of the white house staff, there was a sense, there was a fear in october of 1973 of a double impeachment, that both agnew and president nixon would be...
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charged with investigating whether there were grounds to impeach president nixon. this is the first time many of these individuals have spoken for the record about the inner workings of the impeachment inquiry. a selection of these interviews have been televised for the first time this summer. now, we hear from evan davis who supervised the group of young lawyers working to determine what constituted an impeachable offense. one of the lawyers working on this question was hillary rodham, future first lady and secretary of state. >> hi, i'm tim naftali, i'm director of the richard nixon presidential library. it's september 29th, 2011, and i have the great honor and privilege to be interviewing evan davis for the richard nixon oral history program. >> evan, thank you for doing this. >> my pleasure. i was born in manhattan, so i'm a real new yorker, but when i was very young, about a year old, i was yelling and streaming so much as a kid in this small manhattan apartment that my parents felt it was really important to move to the suburbs. so, we moved to connecticut wh
charged with investigating whether there were grounds to impeach president nixon. this is the first time many of these individuals have spoken for the record about the inner workings of the impeachment inquiry. a selection of these interviews have been televised for the first time this summer. now, we hear from evan davis who supervised the group of young lawyers working to determine what constituted an impeachable offense. one of the lawyers working on this question was hillary rodham, future...
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what did nixon do on the eve he resigned? one of the things that he did was prayed with henry kissinger. but there were more hours. maybe he went wandering. who knows? it's very important that it not become a witch hunt to get at reporter's sources and particularly to haul reporters into court that more often than not that the claim of national security has been violated by a newspaper or the press, as ben bradley said many, many years ago, that it's almost always bogus. at the same time, people in government take an oath that they are not going to disclose national security information. and you can have a legitimate jury, it seems to me. but you have to be very, very careful that this does not turn into something that's totally unjustified. president obama the other day made a statement that his white house is not responsible for leaking national security information. and it seems to me that he's going to have to find out if what he said is really true. >> "the new york times" is concerned that people will assume that someho
what did nixon do on the eve he resigned? one of the things that he did was prayed with henry kissinger. but there were more hours. maybe he went wandering. who knows? it's very important that it not become a witch hunt to get at reporter's sources and particularly to haul reporters into court that more often than not that the claim of national security has been violated by a newspaper or the press, as ben bradley said many, many years ago, that it's almost always bogus. at the same time,...
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johnson was driving the nixon white house. was a distraction that nixon finally figured in the house. get teudi,dfce ac sovgh go iiaridacol whnrescfte this assignment. and i guess that tells you how i found out about the tory. so they basicly te ov nd toun e uaadeothecre e e idn and stay organized, till today. it's recently been renovated. i did recentlyget inside. ses vee sdes fr yon h i ueluathe re count on the sheets is like a good trillion. [laughter] there is a lovely little feel on the vetoverhere y stories is.n we all love reading presidential biographies. ths g rnbert. n ras. aun o d e treed son and curl up with. one of the things we wanted to do is pull the two men together and look at relationships because relaonships or whatever thatirng o h dce wngthbran hech ahews neee res adales long before reagan was president and long after ike was. so much so that in 196 6 ldonren s gig caan ecofalnnfo prennc wle, nh aet to pennsylvania is watching it. never met hi he's rding everything hecan, watching on tevisire hees tm d ec
johnson was driving the nixon white house. was a distraction that nixon finally figured in the house. get teudi,dfce ac sovgh go iiaridacol whnrescfte this assignment. and i guess that tells you how i found out about the tory. so they basicly te ov nd toun e uaadeothecre e e idn and stay organized, till today. it's recently been renovated. i did recentlyget inside. ses vee sdes fr yon h i ueluathe re count on the sheets is like a good trillion. [laughter] there is a lovely little feel on the...
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president nixon was a very able guy. but he did what he did and we did what we had to do, and is the congress reaches a decision. >> sam garrison's office, was it close to yours? >> yeah, yeah. we were all -- we worked out of the congressional hotel. it was a very small space. we were constantly together. garrison was a good advocate. you know, for i don't believe he's still alive. he died. he was not old. he was no older than i was at the time. you should really -- well, you did track down some of them. bill weld i guess. but you should try to track down some of those republican staff members and see. in the end we were mostly on the same page. which is an amazing feat. i know it was important at the time but i didn't understand how important. in this day and age impossible. i think it's impossible. >> what changed? >> the enormous partisanship. it even was when bill clinton was in the white house. when i was council to the president. it became worse and worse. there is no middle. there is no moderate republicans, moder
president nixon was a very able guy. but he did what he did and we did what we had to do, and is the congress reaches a decision. >> sam garrison's office, was it close to yours? >> yeah, yeah. we were all -- we worked out of the congressional hotel. it was a very small space. we were constantly together. garrison was a good advocate. you know, for i don't believe he's still alive. he died. he was not old. he was no older than i was at the time. you should really -- well, you did...
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there was a pause and nixon laughed.t the cocktail party, nixon came up to my father and said you know, pat, i didn't really need to laugh, but i thought i would look better if i did. >> that's a great impression. >> i don't know about that, but anyway i never forgot that story. my father who was a republican called nixon tricky dick every time he referred to him. that made an impression on me. >> was your father quietly smug when nixon came crashing down to prove him right? >> he was heartbroken for the country. he didn't want to see a republican be that stupid. especially nixon who was a brilliant man. >> it would be great to say america learned its lesson and politics cleaned up its act, but right now you see washington paralyzed. you see the emergence of what to me as john mccain told me, it is surely a recipe for scandalous disaster. the super pacs being encouraged by the supreme court to go out under freedom of speech and basically try to buy elections. this can only end in tears. >> for doesn't make sense. you hav
there was a pause and nixon laughed.t the cocktail party, nixon came up to my father and said you know, pat, i didn't really need to laugh, but i thought i would look better if i did. >> that's a great impression. >> i don't know about that, but anyway i never forgot that story. my father who was a republican called nixon tricky dick every time he referred to him. that made an impression on me. >> was your father quietly smug when nixon came crashing down to prove him right?...
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ford testified after the nixon pardon. go down and testify. let them ask you any question they want about whitewater. and they started screaming, the other staff members, stephanopolous started screaming this is -- i'd rather have vast publicity. you'll handle testimony because there is nothing here, than set up an institution with 25 fbi agents who will start investigating you and your friends in arkansas for the rest of your presidency. when i said this by the way monica lewinsky was a junior in high school. she wasn't around at this time. this is six years. don't set up this institution. they will be after you, your friends and everything. oh, they keep asking me about it. he folded. he folded. even hillary folded. hillary who was on my side and couldn't deal with it. they appointed the independent counsel. in the first one was replaced, bob fisk by ken starr, i theft white house because i was now a very controversial figure who gave bad advise about not appointing independent counsel so i left after a year and a quarter in the white house
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she wrote to president nixon on october 21. she is essentially nobody on t tion sce beis bhes g oe -ce shs uheff ws tmm t formf sayinghat i'm confident that your selection will be wise and considered. she nes thatsi n ha appni aihare br edavnpld ce td it is my belief that the citizens of this nation would warmly accept the appointment of a woman to premcour she points out in azonahey haveanhete prco adtt av deit a she said, sincerely sand are d. o'connor, arizatate senator. sh in her files in arina whh wease ssell tpp noft g- ipngs d news of what was going on when nixon was looking at his two choices. nixon forwarded the name of ldre lilifa e ju triba asat w adf o r nt ees heveic -ol t -- the oval office, he said that he wanted it. but in the oval ce tin i th tha h le nttw. heay- lsid at d'ttan i'gara. ion't want any of them around. thank god we don't have any in the cabinet. then in crais nix st heait tin osy w m al ha w t. dheeaiet reg. by the same i said this project chief just warren berger passed away. i wn't able to confi
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i'm director of the richard nixon presidential library and museum in yorba linda, california. september 28, 2011. i have the honor and privilege to interview william weld. thank you for joining us today. please tell us how you came to be involved with the inquiry. >> i got a call in the fall of 1973. i was an associate at a law firm in boston. asking me if i would be interested in interviewing for a job on the impeachment staff. at that point, it hadn't really gotten off the ground. i said, no, i have to stay on until i make partner. and then i called back in 15 seconds and said i made a grave mistake. can i still interview? he said, yes. so i had a telephone interview with sam garrison, running the republican side of the staff, not yet fully unified. some thought it never was. i went down, met with sam, had a good interview with him. and i was engaged to come in quite shortly thereafter and reported for duty in december 1973. >> tell us a little bit about -- first of all, about sam garrison. give us a word picture of him, please. >> he was a devoted family man. i think from t
i'm director of the richard nixon presidential library and museum in yorba linda, california. september 28, 2011. i have the honor and privilege to interview william weld. thank you for joining us today. please tell us how you came to be involved with the inquiry. >> i got a call in the fall of 1973. i was an associate at a law firm in boston. asking me if i would be interested in interviewing for a job on the impeachment staff. at that point, it hadn't really gotten off the ground. i...
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finally, the third joke, there was a pause an then nixon laughed. and at the cocktail party afterward, nixon came up to my father and said you know, pat, i didn't really need to laugh, but i thought i'd look better if i did. and, you know, it's -- >> that's a great impression, by the way. >> well, i don't know. but i've never forgotten that story. my father, who was a republican, call nixon "tricky dicky" every single time he referred to him. >> was your father quietly smug when he came crashing down? >> i think he was heartbroken for the country. he didn't want to see a republican be that stupid. especially nixon. >> it would be great to say america learned its lesson, politics cleaned up its act. et cetera, et cetera. but you see the emergence of what, to me, as joan mccain told me, it is surely a recipe for scandalous disaster. the super pact, to go out under freedom of speech and basically try to buy elections. this could only end in tears. >> it doesn't make sense to me because it means you have the wealth to buy more freedom of speech than peo
finally, the third joke, there was a pause an then nixon laughed. and at the cocktail party afterward, nixon came up to my father and said you know, pat, i didn't really need to laugh, but i thought i'd look better if i did. and, you know, it's -- >> that's a great impression, by the way. >> well, i don't know. but i've never forgotten that story. my father, who was a republican, call nixon "tricky dicky" every single time he referred to him. >> was your father...
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bush and his father giving lakeside talks along with presidents jimmy carter and richard nixon others who have attended our david brooks of the new york times along with c.e.o.'s from c.n.n. and fox jimmy buffett david rockefeller and henry kissinger mark also has an official two thousand and five membership list of grove attendees your typical warmongers george bush sr colin powell richard perle and your typical republican establishment and cider. for hundreds heeded the call to protest. the people of the growth are about to be conquered. college student kimberly is. ridged by what she sees as the top one percent excluding the rest from the discussion shows that we are really the franchise that our voice is a little muted money is speech you know so if you don't have money you don't really have a voice activist felipe in the scene or worries about dangerous policies that are drafted from within the redwoods the nuclear program was discussed here and then developed later the fact that reagan was here in eighty eight and then afterwards we had the reagan revolution where. we've done it
bush and his father giving lakeside talks along with presidents jimmy carter and richard nixon others who have attended our david brooks of the new york times along with c.e.o.'s from c.n.n. and fox jimmy buffett david rockefeller and henry kissinger mark also has an official two thousand and five membership list of grove attendees your typical warmongers george bush sr colin powell richard perle and your typical republican establishment and cider. for hundreds heeded the call to protest. the...