police activity so what will it take for the rest of the country to follow suit to discuss this steve silverman founder and executive director for flex your rights joins us now welcome stephen so sounds like a good effort a good start on behalf of the police department here in washington d.c. do you think it's going to work or think so i think the chief is recognizing what the courts around the country are already recognizing and that is that recording on duty police is protected first amendment activity and that citizens absolutely have the right to do it so citizens have these rights but often times when you're in a situation when you're faced with a police officer and he's either intimidating you or telling you to to put the phone away or they're going to arrest you i mean how do citizens up. hold these rights right it's important to recognize that all the citizens have the right to record on duty police not all police departments and officers have essentially gotten the memo and so often police officers will intimidate citizens into thinking that they do not have the right to report police